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by clerkenwell
Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:22 pm
Forum: Science, Philosophy, Politics, and Current Events
Topic: Officer plans to refuse to go to Iraq
Replies: 202
Views: 12032

[quote="Bigity";p="644368"]Bullshit it's incorrect. It just doesn't jive with your backpeddling. The articles I've read don't say a thing about reassignment, they only mention that it has been done in the past, or is a possible way out for the officer. I can't find an article tha...
by clerkenwell
Tue Jun 13, 2006 5:48 pm
Forum: Science, Philosophy, Politics, and Current Events
Topic: Officer plans to refuse to go to Iraq
Replies: 202
Views: 12032

[quote="Bigity";p="644063"][quote="clerkenwell";p="644056"][quote="Bigity";p="643993"]No, clerkenwell , that fact that he would be break his oath if he does not report for duty is not up for debate.[/quote] Ummm, where did I say that?[/quot...
by clerkenwell
Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:04 am
Forum: Science, Philosophy, Politics, and Current Events
Topic: Officer plans to refuse to go to Iraq
Replies: 202
Views: 12032

[quote="Bigity";p="643993"]No, clerkenwell , that fact that he would be break his oath if he does not report for duty is not up for debate.[/quote] Ummm, where did I say that? There are and have been allowances for objectors made in the past, yet this "officer" has made...
by clerkenwell
Mon Jun 12, 2006 5:45 am
Forum: Science, Philosophy, Politics, and Current Events
Topic: Officer plans to refuse to go to Iraq
Replies: 202
Views: 12032

[quote="Deacon";p="643647"] clerkenwell , I'm honestly not sure whether you're yanking my chain, now. [quote="clerkenwell";p="643634"]If you can't see the conscientious objection here, then you are simply an idiot.[/quote] Well, thank you for your persuasive a...
by clerkenwell
Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:25 pm
Forum: Science, Philosophy, Politics, and Current Events
Topic: Officer plans to refuse to go to Iraq
Replies: 202
Views: 12032

[quote="Deacon";p="643594"]The Iraqi people, the middle east, and the entire world appreciate your good will.[/quote] Don't get me wrong. I certainly hope that the world eventually sees, "a trancendent Iraq as succesful as Germany and Japan," but speaking realistically,...
by clerkenwell
Sat Jun 10, 2006 4:46 pm
Forum: Science, Philosophy, Politics, and Current Events
Topic: Officer plans to refuse to go to Iraq
Replies: 202
Views: 12032

[quote="Phong";p="643323"][quote="clerkenwell";p="643268"]History will remember the U.S. invasion and subsequent occupation and policing of Iraq to be unjust. Time will make this man morally correct in his actions, if my assessment of popular opinion is correc...
by clerkenwell
Fri Jun 09, 2006 6:39 pm
Forum: Science, Philosophy, Politics, and Current Events
Topic: Officer plans to refuse to go to Iraq
Replies: 202
Views: 12032

In history, especially recent history, it has been those who break the law in the name of personal ideals that have become the political and moral icons. As someone pointed out earlier: Gandhi, Mandela, King. All of them law breakers, all of them judged by history to be some of the greatest men who ...
by clerkenwell
Wed May 03, 2006 4:01 am
Forum: Science, Philosophy, Politics, and Current Events
Topic: God as Love
Replies: 63
Views: 5431

To me? And what's your point? Deacon isn't trying to prove anything other than that I said something I didn't actually say. So yeah, nothing anyone says is going to prove that to me, because it isn't true.
by clerkenwell
Wed May 03, 2006 2:58 am
Forum: Science, Philosophy, Politics, and Current Events
Topic: God as Love
Replies: 63
Views: 5431

Explain how that verse doesn't support universal salvation. I'm not talking about the Bible as a whole. I NEVER said I was. That was your (incorrect) assumption. I'm talking about that specific (Biblical) verse. ...and then went on to congratulate yourself on your ability to drop names of Lutheran a...
by clerkenwell
Tue May 02, 2006 10:28 am
Forum: Science, Philosophy, Politics, and Current Events
Topic: God as Love
Replies: 63
Views: 5431

[quote="Deacon";p="630864"]Actually, it's very possible that it is indeed your fault, something worth considering when you're out there trying to find a single word in a single verse that you're using as the sole basis for which you can justify tossing everything else out, and th...
by clerkenwell
Mon May 01, 2006 5:49 am
Forum: Science, Philosophy, Politics, and Current Events
Topic: God as Love
Replies: 63
Views: 5431

[quote="Deacon";p="630584"]I...did what, now? I missed the point? Then what exactly is the point? All I saw was you presenting a verse and then throwing it in people's faces as though it were some trump card to overrule their argument.[/quote] Exactly. That wasn't the point of my...
by clerkenwell
Sun Apr 30, 2006 7:08 am
Forum: Science, Philosophy, Politics, and Current Events
Topic: God as Love
Replies: 63
Views: 5431

Re: God as Love

[quote="Deacon";p="630487"]Aha! If you were a lawyer, you'd probably be shouting "Objection!" with a smarmy look on your face right about now, right? "Your honor, I've managed to dig up an English translation of a letter between two people from about 2,000 years ag...
by clerkenwell
Sat Apr 29, 2006 11:06 am
Forum: Science, Philosophy, Politics, and Current Events
Topic: God as Love
Replies: 63
Views: 5431

Re: God as Love

...we have our hope set on the living God, who is the Saviour of all people, especially of those who believe. Especially, but not only. Of course, the Bible contains a lot of verses that run contrary to this one and say you must satisfy one of any number of conditions in order to be saved, but don'...
by clerkenwell
Mon Apr 24, 2006 6:35 pm
Forum: Science, Philosophy, Politics, and Current Events
Topic: God, Gods, and the bible. Do you know?
Replies: 89
Views: 8071

[quote="LQDMTL";p="629072"]You can not legitimately discuss who god is if you don't believe he exists. It just doesn't work. Get over it.[/quote]

So conversion must be blind? Honestly, that is one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever seen.
by clerkenwell
Thu Apr 13, 2006 5:14 am
Forum: Science, Philosophy, Politics, and Current Events
Topic: The Lost Gospel of Judas
Replies: 76
Views: 6738

[quote="Deacon";p="625995"][quote="clerkenwell";p="625989"]I've given you my sources. The New Testament itself, books written by scholars in the field, and direct instruction from scholars in the field. I believe that gives my assertions some validity, especia...