Mafia!! 2 -- Townspeople strike back!!

Jamie Bond · Post by **Jamie Bond** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 1:52 am

I swayed the votes away from lifedeath for the same reason that I TRIED to say the votes away from Elliott, if you will remember.

People voted for both Elliott and lifedeath because they were acting like asses. No other reason... I didn't agree with EITHER of their attitudes, but I did not think that death was a fitting punishment. This is why I was against voting for them. I am in fact a little suprised that people listened to me. Seems to me a LOT of poeple have been TRYING to sway the votes. The fact that I was successfull makes me a criminal? I'm only trying to protect who I think is innocent. First you all agree with me, NOW you all think I am a criminal BECAUSE you agreed with me? I am confused... please explain your reasoning. If you want to string me up, you at least owe me a reason, eh?

((OOC: How much time until the voting stops this round?))

The Wanderer · Post by **The Wanderer** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 2:04 am

[quote="Jamie Bond";p="295954"]
People voted for both Elliott and lifedeath because they were acting like asses.
If you want to string me up, you at least owe me a reason, eh?
[/quote]

"As I said earlier, I believe in Pout. I know for a fact that he was attacked, so I trust his judgment. That may not be good idea, but at least I know who he is. Not like you, for example. I also think the mafia is smarter then we are giving then credit. Elliot acted like jack ass, attracting attention like sun does, or, to put it simply, in way that would have us blinded from the truth. He assumed wrong. However, that doesn't explain Eigher's behavior... you'd think they would learn. Unless he really wasn't a mafia. But that still doesn't make sense..."

OOC: I will vote, but I still need some time to think... when is the voting over?

Il Palazzo Sama · Post by **Il Palazzo Sama** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 2:13 am

"How exactly do you know he was attacked? If you don't mind me asking....."

*Enoch pipes up and then fades away...

Ender_Wiggin · Post by **Ender_Wiggin** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 2:16 am

voting started yesterday at about 2pm, so we'll say tommorrow at 3 or 4pm (central standard time)

The Wanderer · Post by **The Wanderer** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 2:19 am

[quote="Il Palazzo Sama";p="295965"]"How exactly do you know he was attacked? If you don't mind me asking....."

*Enoch pipes up and then fades away...[/quote]

OOC:...>_<
"How many times do I have to say this!? I know the person who protected Pout! Since no one died, Pout must have been the one attacked!"

Sam rises and shakes a fist a Enoch

Il Palazzo Sama · Post by **Il Palazzo Sama** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 2:27 am

"There is no need to get angery I just missed that point. No put your fist down or I may need to call for an ambulance."

The Wanderer · Post by **The Wanderer** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 2:37 am

"Hmph. Good idea boy, but hurting you would be a waste of my time."

AVoiceInYourHead · Post by **AVoiceInYourHead** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 3:21 am

"Ok people, lets stop with the senseless threats of violence. it gets us nowhere, and is very unbecoming. There are bigger things to worry about here. I still am to unsure of who to vote for, it would be senseless to get another person killed out of jumping to conclusions."

OOC: I will vote, just need some more time to think things over.

FrostFire · Post by **FrostFire** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 3:38 am

Well, He would know that Pout was attacked, because Pout has told us so... if he is to be taken at his word...

Jamie, I'm not so sure what to think of you... Admittedly, you have been making suspicious actions... but in pointing them out, does that make you more or less likely to be a part of the Mafia?

Enoch, well, you know my opinon on you... but now you are making wild accusations... is that the best way for you to divert the attention away from yourself. You Crimeboss.

Wanderer, I dont know what to think of your comments about knowing who the police are... I dont know if this is some clever rouse to get us to think that you ARE the cop you mention, or to make us believe that we should vote with you, cause of course you wouldnt go after the cop... unless you are the Mafia member who tried to kill Pout, and that is how you know who the cop is... I dont know, I havent made up my mind yet about you.

Pout, if we believe you were attacked, unless it is some clever rouse to lure out the police, I think you are relatively safe from the gallows for the rest of the game... unless you do something to show that you got lucky, or werent really attacked like you claim.

Rucduc, Why are you voting for me? and what have you done other than vote people to their death?

Wocket, First off, I am not in the Mafia. Period. End of Discussion. I dont have any of the special decoder rings or anything. But I wonder, what makes you accuse someone with such finality? You never did answer my question though... and yes, i do cast more suspicions on myself than you... but thats because i talk and try to find evidence in the words of others to find proof, and allow them to defend and show logic and proof to contradict an accusation. I dont see the same forthrightness with you, just blind accusations.

LifeDeath, You are up there with Jamie... I dont know if you are way to smart for your own good, or if you are just some pawn for the mafia... Maybe if I can get a transcript of everything everyone has said i can make some sense into what you have done, and if there is some sort of stratagy to what you are doing.

Judgemental, I dont know anything about you... You have kept mainly to yourself, and i dont know if this is some stratagy or maybe you just dont have much to say. Anything to say now?

AVoiceInYourHead and BlackJack, Dont know what to think of you two... anything to say? anything at all...

Rucdoc · Post by **Rucdoc** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 3:51 am

lets add it up, they way you acted first day, the way you continue to dodge the question of what you have been up to and your vehement denial of being mafia, no one argues that hard about something unless they are trying to hide something else. AND IT'S RUCDOC

Ender_Wiggin · Post by **Ender_Wiggin** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 3:51 am

(OOC: Great post, way to call everyone out and make them explain their reasons. Good job!)

AVoiceInYourHead · Post by **AVoiceInYourHead** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 4:06 am

To explain myself to you would be like me trying to explain quantum mechanics to someone. Neither are things which I fully understand. I know how I feel, but to communicate that to others is a task surpassed in difficulty by very few. My thoughts now are still jumbled, but I will have a vote, and It will be based on what has been said and done tonight, and nights before. Not on senseless accusations.

Jamie Bond · Post by **Jamie Bond** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 4:06 am

after meditating for a while, Jamie Bond stands up and addresses the townspeople.

Please hear me out... I think I may have found a logical strategy for finding out who we can trust and who we cannot. Bear with me please everyone.

Wanderer, you say Pout is surely not mafia. That I agree with. However, that doesnt mean he knows anything. He is just as likely to be wrong as any other citizen. I think the best thing we can do is figure out who we can TRUST. Someone who may actually KNOW something. The police were able to protect Pout. I beleive they have someone on the INSIDE. I think one of you is a hidden hero. Who knows something but is afraid to say much beyond subtle hinting?

By process of elimination, lets find out who we can TRUST, rather then who we can BLAME. Who is the hero?

It isn't Pout. We KNOW that. Thats one down. Not to say we CAN'T trust Pout, only that he doesnt really know any more then the rest of us.

It isn't me... I can assure you I am a simple citizen; I am neither hero nor villain. But you would all have to take my word on that.

I don't beleive it is Kara, as she has been voting for many different poeple.

I don't beleive it is lifedeath. She is always so indecisive.

Of all these poeple, Pout is the only one we know is NOT mafia. We only can guess that they are also not a hero on the inside that may know more then the rest of us.

With this knowledge I can go on to try to decide who is surely NOT mafia. Let us consider who voted for who in the first round. Surely whoever is on the inside will have been hinting at it since the first round.

[quote="Ender_Wiggen";p="292607"]
Heres my EXACT stuff.

Day 1
Voted For
amlthraw voted for Palazzo
Wanderer voted for amlthrawn
Strucking voted for no one
Eihger voted for amlthrawn
Rucdoc voted for amlthrawn
Jamie Bond voted for FrostFire
JudgeMental voted for no one
AVoiceInYourHead voted for amlthrawn
Lifedeath voted for Palazzo
Blackjack voted for amlthrawn
wocket voted for FrostFire
Palazzo voted for amlthrawn
Frostfire voted for Palazzo
Pout voted for Palazzo[/quote]

Given that the man (or woman) on the inside would be hinting at the members of the mob from the start, that gives us 3 suspects for the Mafia. FrostFire, Elliot and Enoch.

Elliott was sadly killed that night. He could have been a member of the mob.
Only two voted for FrostFire. Both of these poeple (Myself and wocket) are ones who I beleive do NOT have any inside information, for the reasons stated above. This means that FrostFire is most likely innocent.

Lastly, we come to Enoch. Let us consider who wanted him killed?
Pout did. But he doesnt know much.
lifedeath did. But as I stated above, she has been very indecisive. She probably doesnt really know.
Elliott did. He may have known something. He may have been mafia. We cannot really know.
FrostFire did. He may have known something, and he is probably NOT a criminal.

Could FrostFire be the man on the inside? In fact, I recall FrostFire agreeing with Elliott even after Elliott had insulted him... perhaps they BOTH knew? At first I suspected treachery, but maybe those two were in leuge... to try and HELP us?

I say the evidence points towards Enoch.

The only other possible conclusion, if my prior logic is sound, is that Elliot WAS the one that was being hinted at and was rightly killed. If that is the case, we are back to square one. IF this is the case, Enoch would in fact be INNOCENT because he voted for Elliot to be killed.

What it comes down to is this: Did we make a mistake in condemning Elliott so fast? We were quick to judge with very little information. The chances of us being right are quite slim I say. The odds point to Enoch being a member of the mafia!

His name has come up every night thus far. I now have solid reasons to vote ENOCH. If anyone can find flaws in my logic, please do tell me... but I beleive it is sound.

Jamie takes a deep breath, whipes sweat from his forhead and sits down once more

((OOC: That means I vote Enoch))

AVoiceInYourHead · Post by **AVoiceInYourHead** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 4:15 am

You seem to have reached a well thought conclusion Jamie. But that is also based on the believe that you are not mafioso. Im not saying you are or not, but that your argument seems somewhat based on the fact that you are not mafioso. Other then that I agree with many of your points, but I still have a bit of thought to do myself on it.

amlthrawn · Post by **amlthrawn** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 4:15 am

OCC:

Logic is teh r0x0r. And have some respect for the dead. Elliott wasn't that bad was he?

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