Macs vs. PCs

jaxbrokenheart · Post by **jaxbrokenheart** » Wed Aug 13, 2003 6:03 am

[quote="Sipheren";p="133781"]• 1.8GHz PowerPC G5
• 512MB DDR400 SDRAM (PC3200) - 2x256
This would be good.....can you use memory from another retailer in a MAC, because I need 1GB worth and its extremely for there RAM...[/quote]
yes, mac ram = pc ram. just make sure it's DDR400 SDRAM (PC3200).

7on · Post by **7on** » Wed Aug 13, 2003 6:14 am

Are the 1.8GHz dulies?

Saphid · Post by **Saphid** » Wed Aug 13, 2003 7:01 am

no there not but i don't think i can get that much for my machine but i'll try i have no real consept about the price of the machine if any of you want to buy it
tell us but the board maybe faulty or its just a corrupt backup of XP (yes MB backup no pirate the real is in the back of a locked cupboard in its original case and box only take it out to make a new back up ) and i can't sell that i've been may to promise

jaxbrokenheart · Post by **jaxbrokenheart** » Wed Aug 13, 2003 7:21 am

[quote="Schiffi";p="133811"]Are the 1.8GHz dulies?[/quote]
not currently. but, rumors are escalating that apple will make it dual because of an overwhelming amount of 2ghz orders and lack of 1.8ghz orders. the rumors also say that people who have ordered dual 2ghz g5's will be notified and will be able to easily switch to the lower model if they want to. (but, remember that these are rumors)

Saphid · Post by **Saphid** » Wed Aug 13, 2003 10:59 am

what rumor sites you go to

7on · Post by **7on** » Wed Aug 13, 2003 2:10 pm

http://forums.macrumors.com/

Also has a help section

Infin8Cyn · Post by **Infin8Cyn** » Wed Aug 13, 2003 3:04 pm

Macs still suck.

most of adobe's apps are on the mac (most of them started on a mac). with the exception of premiere (final cut pro and avid are too much competition for them), atmosphere (they were making it for mac, last i heard), and photoshop album (iPhoto does exactly the same thing and it comes with macs).
are you talking about 3ds max from discreet? if so, i looked on their site and didn't see a mac version

There was a recent article (they've since taken it down) on the official Adobe site, showing that their apps ran at twice the speed (not by clock speed, by how long it takes to do certain tasks) and it also held Adobe's official "We prefer the PC" statement.

Subtotal A$ 4,785.00

GAH! I can by a good 5 (decently powered) PCs for that price, and set up a network rendering farm. Good lord!

G5 Information

The other thing that truly bothers me about Macs, is often their fanbase. I'm not saying you mac users are all horrible people, but when a Mac is reviewed harshly, ever fanatic comes outta the woodwork to bash the reviewer. Now, some have valid points, others write useless garbage and argue on the net. Sure, it happens rarely with pcs/windows, but Mac users.... I've never seen anything like it, in fact...
Kim Komando Wrote an Article about this Mac Hatred. It more than anything about Macs, bothers me.

Post by **Martin Blank** » Wed Aug 13, 2003 4:37 pm

Only three systems (or four if you find really good prices), Infin. That's about US$3000.

ham toolie · Post by **ham toolie** » Wed Aug 13, 2003 5:46 pm

Macs use mostly industry standard parts, so you can pretty much swap what you like as long as it doesn't need drivers. If it needs drivers, then you have to make sure it has Mac-compatible ones. A very wide range of peripherals are available with little to no configuration.

7on · Post by **7on** » Wed Aug 13, 2003 9:27 pm

-Infin8Cyn

Macs don't suck, Motorola processors suck

and Adobe has taken it down probably due to the release of the G5.

When the G4's first came out they brought Apple ahead of the competion. However, Motorola's processor department is not what it was used to be so the G4 remained unchanged for basically a year and a half (while Intel went from 1.8GHz to 3GHz, basically). That is why Adobe, briefly supported PCs, because they became faster. Now the G4 is an excellent proc for a mobile compter, because it has low power consumptive and average temps. Apple went back to IBM for the G5s, because it had promise. The only "Apple" manufactored parts in a Mac are the case and the Mobo (perhaps the PSU). Even my repair report for my PowerBook says "Samsung LCD".

Don't worry Infin8Cyn, I have see some PC people defend PCs as actively as some Mac people defend macs. They usually begin their posts with "Macs still suck".

Post by **Martin Blank** » Wed Aug 13, 2003 10:39 pm

Apple went to IBM primarily because Motorola wants out of the CPU business, and has been talking about folding the line for a couple of years now. IBM is continuing to improve the PPC architecture, whereas Motorola doesn't care much if it dies.

jaxbrokenheart · Post by **jaxbrokenheart** » Thu Aug 14, 2003 1:16 am

[quote="Infin8Cyn";p="133998"]
There was a recent article (they've since taken it down) on the official Adobe site, showing that their apps ran at twice the speed (not by clock speed, by how long it takes to do certain tasks) and it also held Adobe's official "We prefer the PC" statement.
[/quote]

the only app they tested was after effects, NOT photoshop or illustrator, to say that
since this was based on after effects, they'd much rather people use pc's for editing video since that takes away their biggest competition in that market (final cut pro, which, as noted before, is the reason why they won't make premiere for mac). to do this, they needed specs to back this up, which is why they went to after effects, which didn't do so well on the G4

also, the rumor sites i'd recommend are MacRumors and Think Secret. those are the two most reliable (in my opinion), and macrumors includes a buyer's guide to show how the rumors and facts apply to buying a new mac. and for laughs, check out the mock-rumor sites, Crazy Apple Rumors Site and As the Apple Turns

Felan · Post by **Felan** » Thu Aug 14, 2003 1:46 am

cyn wrote:The other thing that truly bothers me about Macs, is often their fanbase. I'm not saying you mac users are all horrible people, but when a Mac is reviewed harshly, ever fanatic comes outta the woodwork to bash the reviewer. Now, some have valid points, others write useless garbage and argue on the net. Sure, it happens rarely with pcs/windows, but Mac users.... I've never seen anything like it, in fact...

Nah it happens to every system out there. Here in town I don't have harsh bashing mac loyalist, but instead have the harsh Linux loyalists that will hang you upside down if you speak bad about Linux

(not saying Linux is a bad OS, it was more pointing out that people will always bash bad reviews regardless if its a pc or even >.> CGWs review of Postal 2)

Saphid · Post by **Saphid** » Sun Aug 17, 2003 11:32 pm

what software is there for the mac ( other than a text editor) to make web sites

jaxbrokenheart · Post by **jaxbrokenheart** » Mon Aug 18, 2003 3:53 am

macromedia's stuff (flash, dreamweaver, contribute, etc.), adobe golive (along with the rest of the web collection and livemotion), BBEdit, Taco HTML edit (which is free), and lots more that i didn't mention/don't know about. there is a list (though, probably incomplete) of a lot of them at http://www.versiontracker.com/macosx/htmltools (also, versiontracker.com has lots of mac osx software, it's a great place)

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