Looking for an Anime where the bad guys win. >_>

EvilElf · Post by **EvilElf** » Thu Mar 25, 2004 3:00 am

I have been wanting to see an anime that has the bad guys win instead of the good guys.

Any out there?

StruckingFuggle · Post by **StruckingFuggle** » Thu Mar 25, 2004 3:08 am

Nothing that I've seen, which is too bad.

Yeah, where are the anime tragedies?

ChronoSword · Post by **ChronoSword** » Thu Mar 25, 2004 3:42 am

I know one where everyone dies. That is not exactly the bad guys win.

Saikano is like that. Well, technically not everyone dies but almost. It is tragedy.

Arcanos · Post by **Arcanos** » Thu Mar 25, 2004 4:50 am

the wolf brigade.

Eihger · Post by **Eihger** » Thu Mar 25, 2004 5:19 am

Japanese romance: everybody dies
Japanese comedy: a few people die
Japanese tragedy: nobody dies

Accer · Post by **Accer** » Thu Mar 25, 2004 5:55 am

Berserk would be exactly the one you are looking for. Yeah, that one sure doesn't have a happy ending.

Wolf's Rain would be an incredibly tragic one to watch, if that's what you're looking for... but I'd say that nobody wins in that. I guess you could argue about the main characters not-losing, but that’s worthy of debate. But then it’s also debatable whether the bad guy didn’t not-lose either…

Oh yeah, while there aren’t really any bad guys per se, Hikaru no Go has a remarkable untraditional final episode for the genre. But, uh, that’s not actually been made yet though. (It would be in the last episode of the OVA.) But check it out once it does.

I can think of a lot more where nobody really wins or loses, because the plot isn’t really a win-or-lose type of plot.

Dragonmaster Zoc · Post by **Dragonmaster Zoc** » Thu Mar 25, 2004 5:59 am

Excel Saga. Well, it depends on your definition of "good" and "bad." and "win."

Aether · Post by **Aether** » Thu Mar 25, 2004 6:05 am

Blue Gender. The bad guys totally won in that. "The Bad Guys" being Yuri, who must be bad simply because I hated him so much. I was really hoping for his violent death, but I suppose they wanted a twist with the ending, you know, where, "Sorry, but this asshole is gonna save the world." The saddest ending I ever saw.

Accer · Post by **Accer** » Thu Mar 25, 2004 7:21 am

I'll never regret that I stopped watching Blue Gender at episode 1.

Sabrewolfe · Post by **Sabrewolfe** » Thu Mar 25, 2004 10:50 am

yeah trying to find stuff where the bad guys win is pretty hard, East or West. unhappy endings just don't sell well. the only stuff i can think if where the bad guy wins, utterly, is the elric of melnibone saga by michael moorcock, but thats books not anime. although universal is supposedly going to make a movie based on them. *shudders* care to lay odds on THAT getting screwed up beyond all recognition?

NorthernComfort · Post by **NorthernComfort** » Thu Mar 25, 2004 4:20 pm

Define "Bad Guys" in Evangelion and I'll wonder whether or not they won or not.... Argh... Head hurts....

There's a decent amount of dying at the end of Escaflowne. But not enough. And the bad guys lose, dammit.

This smells like money, as PennyArcade once said.

Astyrian · Post by **Astyrian** » Thu Mar 25, 2004 4:24 pm

4 to 1 any movie of Elric is screwed beyond all recognition.

Since we're essentially revealing the endings of various anime, I'll shrink my contribution.

The bad guy wins in Giant Robo, but of course it's not the bad guy propped up the entire series, and it's not a complete victory. Still sucks to be the good guys at the end.

spoon · Post by **spoon** » Thu Mar 25, 2004 4:43 pm

[quote="Dragonmaster Zoc";p="307550"]Excel Saga. Well, it depends on your definition of "good" and "bad." and "win."[/quote]

Best summary of the end, evar.

Gundampilotspaz · Post by **Gundampilotspaz** » Thu Mar 25, 2004 6:03 pm

Berserk

The_Strong_Jaeger · Post by **The_Strong_Jaeger** » Thu Mar 25, 2004 10:54 pm

Hmmm, Grave of The Fireflies should count. There is no direct bad guy, but the US is the cause of all the hardships. And the Good guys(the main characters) definetly don't win.

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