Water that isn't wet.

furre · Post by **furre** » Sun Apr 18, 2004 8:41 pm

BillyBlaze, how many families could be fed using the money spent on that computer of yours?

Post by **Martin Blank** » Sun Apr 18, 2004 8:43 pm

[quote="Monk";p="321869"]I wonder what the cost would be of replacing existing halon systems with this, and if there would be any point in doing so.[/quote]
Replacing them may be cost-prohibitive, but new or retrofitted systems would probably be worth it. Halon and sprinkler systems are two different things, though -- Halon is a gas and is pressurized, whereas sprinkler systems use liquids.

I also seem to recall the evaporation point for this stuff being around 120 degrees, so it would readily evaporate.

TheScaryOne · Post by **TheScaryOne** » Sun Apr 18, 2004 8:49 pm

Or the money you spend monthly on internet access, or the money that you could be out earning if you weren't here annoying us?

Edit: Isn't Halon not allowed anymore? Or am I thinking of one of the other gas fire-suppresants?

BillyBlaze · Post by **BillyBlaze** » Sun Apr 18, 2004 9:04 pm

[quote="furre";p="322141"]BillyBlaze, how many families could be fed using the money spent on that computer of yours?

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Quite a few I'd imagine.

Post by **Martin Blank** » Sun Apr 18, 2004 9:15 pm

[quote="TheScaryOne";p="322146"]Edit: Isn't Halon not allowed anymore? Or am I thinking of one of the other gas fire-suppresants?[/quote]
Existing systems were grandfathered in, and can be legally recharged. However, as time goes on, recharges are going to become more expensive because I believe that manufacturing Halon is now banned as well.

mrchapel · Post by **mrchapel** » Mon Apr 19, 2004 5:49 pm

Very few systems will be retrofitted, I believe. However newer systems will probably use it. And I don't know who said about using it for heat before but that is a really good idea... except you can do that with distilled water and pipes anyway.

Rfairney · Post by **Rfairney** » Mon Apr 19, 2004 6:56 pm

Whoever said about it might not put out fires ...
(no I can't be bothered to go and look .. flame me if you wish but I will just ignore it)

The whole method of putting out a fire is to starve it of a necessary fuel, normally oxygen, by using Sapphire to cover it the fire will die

spoon · Post by **spoon** » Tue Apr 20, 2004 5:21 am

[quote="StruckingFuggle";p="322095"]A: If you give people enough food to survive, they'll simply expand their population until they're starving again.
[/quote]

Humans are a virus.

Beast · Post by **Beast** » Tue Apr 20, 2004 2:03 pm

[quote="spoon";p="322889"][quote="StruckingFuggle";p="322095"]A: If you give people enough food to survive, they'll simply expand their population until they're starving again.
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Humans are a virus.[/quote]
Agreed

Zero_Point · Post by **Zero_Point** » Tue Apr 20, 2004 2:06 pm

[quote="StruckingFuggle";p="320774"]Yes, Zero Point, because we know all scientists are working to cure cancer...

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And we also know that all scientists were devoted to making water that isn't wet.

mrchapel · Post by **mrchapel** » Tue Apr 20, 2004 3:14 pm

some are

Imperator Severn · Post by **Imperator Severn** » Tue Apr 20, 2004 6:29 pm

The whole method of putting out a fire is to starve it of a necessary fuel, normally oxygen, by using Sapphire to cover it the fire will die

Actually, when you pour water on a fire, you cool it to the point where the reaction stops. YOu don't take away oxygen. Foam does that, but not water.

And we also know that all scientists were devoted to making water that isn't wet.

Do you have a point, or are you just pissing in the wind? I fail to understand how a cure for cancer (which as I mentioned, may not exist,) and this sapphire stuff are even on the same plane.

[quote="spoon";p="322889"][quote="StruckingFuggle";p="322095"]A: If you give people enough food to survive, they'll simply expand their population until they're starving again.
[/quote]

Humans are a virus.[/quote]

StruckingFuggle's statement is true of all species.

spoon · Post by **spoon** » Tue Apr 20, 2004 8:27 pm

Life is a virus.

ChronoSword · Post by **ChronoSword** » Tue Apr 20, 2004 8:38 pm

[quote="BillyBlaze";p="322126"]First question: Who was the guy that woke up one morning and said," I'm going to make water that isn't wet!" And who was the lunatic that said, "Gee, I could feed a starving nation or cure cancer with this money, but I want to see water that isn't wet. Just for shits and giggles."[/quote]

I don't know whether or not you read the article, but it was the Tyco's Fire and Security Division that made "sapphire". There only purpose is to make better fire and security systems. Curing cancer is not part of that. Making water that is not wet is.

Beware of the Leopard · Post by **Beware of the Leopard** » Wed Apr 21, 2004 7:42 am

holy crap that's a lot of fluorine. It's basically liquid Teflon... calling it "dry water" is a bit misleading as the only similarity is it's liquid phase and color.

Correct IUPAC name (95% sure I got this right):
nonafluoro-2-trifluoromethyl-3-propanone

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