Capital Punisment?

[ReggarBlane]

I believe in capital punishment only when someone is deemed "uncorrectable" and poses a risk too great to take by offering them the possibility of release (or escape). "Revenge" or "justice" or even "punishment" has nothing to do with it. It's "necessity" in a social situation.

Now, define "uncorrectable". Who decides that? I'm not qualified to make that judgement. I don't know who would be. I guess one has to go with the majority in this case without some other standard in place. Maybe some kind of risk assessment? I dunno.

[Schmuck]

Another problem is that we can often not be entirely sure that the accused murderer even did kill someone, even if they ave been convicted. i've seen a few cases where people have been released from prison because new evidence (ie DNA profiling) has shown they couldn't possibly have done it. how would you feel if you had sentenced someone to death, then found out later it weren't them?

[peter-griffin]

Sucks to be them. We do the damn best we can; courts in the US aren't as wrong as they are right, and the due process of law is pretty much the best it gets when it comes to filtering out innocents from guilties. The only way to be 100% we don't convict an innocent person is to not jail anybody at all. How would you feel about that, Scmuck?

I believe in capital punishment. Life is sacred and dear, yes, and it should at almost any cost be preserved; however, when one person takes the life of another, the sanctity of their right to live is tarnished.

[adamjaskie]

I whole-heartedly agree with both BillyBlaze and peter-griffin.

[Lord Terrible]

[quote="Lil' Chris";p="324289"]Sorry if this has been done before.

Do people here belive in Capital Punishment or not?

Personally I think that we should executed murderers. I think that if they kill a human being then they too should die. Alot of people would say that it is wrong and that we should take a human's life away, but isn't that what they did to their victim(s).

Any thoughts? You know what to do...[/quote]
What about the government then? Then they are killers and must be put to permanent rest. Or maybe they did it because of public wish... Then the public are murderers and must be iced.

Anyhoo...

"The innocent must be sacrificed so that the guilty are punished."

[peter-griffin]

Isn't that quote just a bit backwards...?

[mrchapel]

ReggarBlane, you used the term "uncorrectable" a little while ago. What do you think about people with mental disorders? Most of the time they cannot be cured. Should they be put to death if they pose a threat to society?

BillyBlaze, you talked about pedophiles (sp?) being defects in evolution (or something similar). Should all evolutionary deffects be put to death?

[Martin Blank]

[quote="BillyBlaze";p="324558"]The way I see it, if I had a choice of either spending millions of tax dollars keeping a child molester fed and clothed, or taking him out back and putting a bullet in his head, I'm picking the bullet.[/quote]
And if it costs millions to even get him in front of the gun?

BTW, firing squads aim for the heart, so as to leave a clean face for the family to be able to bury.

[Imperator Severn]

He's proven himself to be an evolutionary defect,

If that were true, it would be logical to sterilize negroes because Africa is a violent place, and young black males are more likely to commit crime in the united states than any other group. This obviously has nothing to do with the kind of place they grow up in, because their genes are what make them criminals, and if that is so, then people closer to them genetically are more likely to be cariers of the criminal gene even if it does not manifest itsself in antisocial behaviour.


EDIT: Moreover, what of people who actually do have genetic defects? What of midgets and people with cystic fibrosis? Perhaps the retarded should be put to death as well?

[Lord Terrible]

....not to forget homosexuals...

Could you imagine the reaction if every 20th person was executed?

[Imperator Severn]

A slowing in the spread of AIDS?

[elroy]

I'd be for it if we would be really really really really sure, and there's been a fair trial. However, this isn't always the case and as been stated, sometimes people on death row get released after they find out it was someone else. Not that it matters what I think, the Netherlands doesn't have capital punishment.

[Martin Blank]

I don't believe Israel had it in 1962, but that didn't stop Eichmann from being hanged for crimes against humanity. The justification was that his crimes were so heinous, so extreme, that death was the only suitable punishment. There are occasional exceptions.

[SomGuy]

you talked about pedophiles (sp?) being defects in evolution (or something similar). Should all evolutionary deffects be put to death?

To answer this, only the ones that have harmed and would continue to harm the innocent in ways whoever you are talking to thinks are suitable to deserve the death penalty. The fact that it isn't a flaw placed in him by his enviroment and instaed placed in him by gentic dose not negate the harm. Now in my opinion there is nothing wrong with pedophiles being pedophiles, though pedophiles that are rapists is another story. Honestly some young children experiance sexual desire before they get old enough to be placed out of that category. I'm going to stop talking now because I'm getting off topic.

[Lord Terrible]

Naw, please continue. Please explain to me how a pedophilics genes can counter his desire to do what he does, and not being the very thing giving him that urge.