Bush's "Priorities" Ad

[billf]

Has anyone else seen the campain ad from Bush about Kerry's priorities?

It states that Kerry has missed 2/3rds of all votes due to campaining, but managed to vote against some law against violence against women or something like that.

Now, doesn't this ad start out with a message saying "My name is George W. Bush, and I approve this message"? Isn't George W Bush the same man who has put trying to get a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriges as a "Top priority"?

Forget about this being even a stupider idea than prohabition, but what about the fact that most states already have their own laws banning gay marrages?

It's common for people in other branches of the government running for the presidency to not be around to vote on things. That's part of the reason why there are so many people in the Senate and the House of Representatives, so that we don't leave decisions up to just a couple of people. Missing one person isn't going to make a huge difference in the common day to day shit that flows through the government. I'm sure if something Kerry was adament about was being voted on, he'd make damn sure he was there to voice his opinion.

I know that this is standard bullshit and I should come to expect it every 4 years, but that doesn't mean I have to like it. Some people are actually going to listen to this crap. I feel sad for those people.



and I know there are tons of spelling mistakes... I guess I need to reinstall Word.

[Martin Blank]

While it's expected that he would miss some votes, some of the votes he missed could have gone the way he wanted had he been there. I forget what it was specifically, something to do with seniors, that went against his views in what happened (I think it was passed or defeated by one vote -- Cheney's).

I was sick of the politics about a year ago, my own words in here notwithstanding.

[peter-griffin]

It's the common jibba jabba that we really should come to expect nowadays. Campaigns, it seems, are getting consistantly more negative as time goes on, and with the skill of photoshoppers these days, it'll probably only get worse.

This does, however, have a sharp ping of irony to it - I mean, if Gee Dubbya is spending time doing these ads (which, of course, he personally isn't), should they be seen as a priority in front of something else, namely, leading the country?

The arguement altogether has a particular taste of salt that I just can't get over - I mean, I hate Kerry, but this move by Bush is a rather petty one. Of course Kerry is spending time on the trail; his goal is to get elected. I assume someone could play that off as being selfish, but if he has been nominated by a major political party to be their nominee for President, the most powerful post a person can hold in the most powerful country in the world, then it would seem only rational that his job in the Senate would, for it's remainder, become secondary.

Though, I do have a rather simple question: if Kerry somehow gets the Presidency through black magic or otherwise, will he simply retire as a Senator, or...?

[dmpotter]

[quote="peter-griffin";p="370894"]Though, I do have a rather simple question: if Kerry somehow gets the Presidency through black magic or otherwise, will he simply retire as a Senator, or...?[/quote]
Should Kerry win, his seat will be considered open and Massachusetts would hold a general election to determine his replacement.

(Originally the governor, Mitt Romney (a Republican), would have chosen a replacement - but the (mostly Democrat) house and senate passed a new law changing that.)

Edit: I never make typos.

[Blind Pyr0]

That's not the worst of Bush's ads. Go to http://www.georgewbush.com and click "Latest Videos" and it'll play a commercial that literally compares The democratic nominees to hitler.

[Deacon]

I'm not finding it, Pyro. Which commercial are you referring to?

[WolfDreamer]

If I'm not mistaken there is pro-Bush video that does compare Democrats to Nazis/Hitler however it was prepared as a response to something the DNC said about Bush. Not sure of the exact details unfortunely. I'll try and find a source when I have some time to place with Google

[dmpotter]

He appears to be refering to the "Priorities" ad, since that's what I got when I clicked "Latest Videos". (If you're using Firefox, don't use the Windows Media option; at least, it didn't work for me.) Of course, that's the ad billf was talking about, and he didn't mention Hitler.

But it's not like Democrats have ever compared Bush to Hitler in TV ads.

Edit: fixed a typo, slight rewording.

[DeepFried]

Moveon.org didn't sponsor those ads. They were submitted to a contest and eventually taken down from moveon's website. It certainly doesn't speak for the Democrat Party as a whole. But I still can't find the Republican's Hitler reference. Any clarification?

[Azurain]

You're right, dmpotter. It's not like the Democrats have ever compared Bush to Hitler in TV ads. It's like a contest on moveon.org involving ads that were critical of Bush happened to include, among 1500 submissions, 2 ads comparing Bush to Hitler. Which were never aired, and only viewable online because just about every submission was posted online. It was never endorsed by the Democratic party or by MoveOn.org itself, and was certainly never aired on TV such that it could be called a TV ad.

Blah.

[dmpotter]

MoveOn.org may have not "sponsored" those ads, but after claiming that only ads that were "acceptable for TV" would be accepted to the site, they certainly did appear to support them. And they weren't "taken down" from MoveOn.org's site so much as they weren't in the top 150, and therefore deleted along with the other losing entries.

So while after the fact MoveOn.org now claims they didn't support that message, they didn't actually do anything about it. And I never claimed MoveOn.org spoke for the Democratic party, just that Democrats did the Bush to Hitler comparison first.

I highly doubt any Bush staffer would be foolish enough to compare Kerry and Edwards to Hitler. I'm sure some random crazed ultra-conservative wacko will be willing to, but I doubt the vast majority of sane Republicans would.

(Besides, Hitler was able to make up his mind. Kerry would be randomly swapping who was being exterminated in death camps. </tasteless-joke>)

Edit: Someone else posted while I wrote this, and again can't read. Learn to read English. I wrote "Democrats," and not "the Democrats" - in other words, some Democrats. Not all of them.

[Azurain]

Regardless, you still claimed it was a TV ad, which it hardly is given that it was never aired on TV and that the only place you're likely to find it now is on Republican websites attempting to use the actions of "some random crazed ultra-liberal wacko" against the entire Democratic platform... really moral and upstanding a thing to do, that, hmm?

[Accer]

Sooo... what exactly is your point dmpotter?

edit - d'oh, ninjaed by Azurain


Anyway, are all the videos by Democrats? Green Party people and independents hate Bush too.

[AizawaTakako]

Ohh... that's too bad that you didn't find it on the website, did you consider googling it?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1160937/posts
http://myspinzone.randomdrivel.com/disp ... le281.html
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/artic ... E_ID=39155
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=s ... ote_hitler
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Politics/ap20040626_885.html
http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/archive/ne ... hitler.htm

It's ONE thing for an obviously hateful group like MoveOn.org to allow such videos to get posted on the internet, if only a submission. Hey, even their own members thought it sucked, that's why it didn't win.

It's an entirely DIFFERENT story when a video like that appears on the OFFICIAL Bush-Cheney 2004 Website.

The title of this new ad? "The Many Faces of the John Kerry Campaign. The Coalition of the Wild-eyed."
And to quote an excerpt: "This is not a time for pessimism and rage ... It's a time for optimism, steady leadership and progress."

You know what the funniest thing is?
The Bush campaign actually trys to defend itself instead of just apologizing.
And yet again, trying to push the blame on individual people, who are simply part of the Democratic party (or just plain Bush haters, *cough* Moore *cough*) and not the party in and of itself.
They even question why didn't Kerry condemn Michael Moore for comparing the Partiot Act to Mein Kampf, when Kerry had said to THE WORLD on Larry King Live he hasn't and never plans to see F:9/11, that he's "been watching it for the last four years." I can understand why he doesn't want to see it, hell, I wouldn't want to be paying to have that stuff shoved in my face, which is less than can be said for Bush's ads.
http://www.georgewbush.com/blog/archive ... 06_20.html


Did I also mention there's a Bush ad comparing the Kerry campaign to the Yakuza? The hilarity.
(This one is still available for viewing.)

[DeepFried]

Heh, the link was moved to the very bottom of the list of "More Videos", probably trying to distract and get as many people to click as many ads as possible before getting to the final one.

Mainly, the juxtaposition seemed to try to make the Democrats look like they were giving Hitler-esque speeches. It was rather silly.

That whole "message of pessimism" thing is rather annoying. Sure, they're painting a pessimistic image of the Bush presidency. The Republicans are doing the same to a hypothetical Kerry presidency. They're both optimistic about their own policies.

(Here's partisan rancor for ya) The ad also spoke of "progress." If progress is backwards social legislation (IE anti-gay marriage ammendment), exceedingly large deficits, and giving the world more reasons to hate us, someone might want to change the dictionary definition.