Gay Politicians and Gay Laws

NorthernComfort · Post by **NorthernComfort** » Tue Aug 31, 2004 4:54 am

OK, first the New Jersey governor comes out with his own little gay scandal, and now we've got a Virginia congressman- Ed Shrock- with his own scandal: his little phoned-in gay personal ad (mp3) got out. He has retired.

But here's the kicker. He co-sponsored the Federal Marriage Amendment. He's been called the second most conservative in Congress.

The who to the what now? I just can't help but wonder about our lawmakers. It's one thing for Cheney to not back the gay marriage amendment, as his daughter is a lesbian, but here is a gay congressman masquerading as a conservative guy, who favored ending the dont-ask-don-tell policy. What is going on?!

TopCat · Post by **TopCat** » Tue Aug 31, 2004 5:07 am

Well that's just gay.

peter-griffin · Post by **peter-griffin** » Tue Aug 31, 2004 5:16 am

And that's just trolling.

Post by **Martin Blank** » Tue Aug 31, 2004 5:36 am

[quote="NorthernComfort";p="391614"]But here's the kicker. He co-sponsored the Federal Marriage Amendment. He's been called the second most conservative in Congress. [/quote]
Openly-gay conservative talk radio host Al Rantel (KABC radio in Los Angeles) is also opposed to gay marriage. Some of them are. Mike Huffington was a closet homosexual, and was quite the conservative in his time in the House, opposing DADT, gay rights, and numerous other initiatives that were intended to make it easier for gays to be an open part of society.

Mr.Shroom · Post by **Mr.Shroom** » Tue Aug 31, 2004 7:55 am

[quote="NorthernComfort";p="391614"]It's one thing for Cheney to not back the gay marriage amendment, as his daughter is a lesbian[/quote]

From what I've been hearing he's actually pulling the 'no comment'\'whatever the admins say' path. Not exactly on one side or the other.

YH · Post by YH » Tue Aug 31, 2004 10:24 am

I think that being gay doesn't necessarily mean being a liberal... and being gay definitely doesn't mean that you want to be married.

Azurain · Post by **Azurain** » Tue Aug 31, 2004 10:45 am

No, but it'd generally mean that you'd either want the choice to be married or at least desire the legal protections that marriage entails should you enter into a long-term monogamous relationship.

YH · Post by YH » Tue Aug 31, 2004 10:53 am

I'm really not sure that sexual orientation has any strong say in that judgement. Political/social ideals, perhaps, but it's not based off on whether you are gay or not. This can be looked at the other way round - Could you believe that every hetrosexual person would object/care about government interference with hetrosexual marriage rights, merely because they prefer the opposite sex?

Bigity · Post by **Bigity** » Tue Aug 31, 2004 3:09 pm

Perhaps he just realizes that it is a state matter, and therefore was against any federal law either for or against gay marriages one way or another?

Camp David · Post by **Camp David** » Tue Aug 31, 2004 3:51 pm

That man is a disgrace to the Republican party. It is already most unfortunate that the Vice President's daughter is a shame to the Cheney family, but to have powerful conservative Republican voices revealed to be betraying their ideals is terrible. However, as twisted as this man is (I listened to the MP3, which was disgusting)- I feel that he did the right thing to resign. America needs to amend the Constitution to keep these liberal gays from believing they can actually achieve the sanctimony of marriage. For this to happen, the moral Republicans need to present a unified front. Shrock has shamed America worse than a hundred liberal faggots could.

AlexanderBarca · Post by **AlexanderBarca** » Tue Aug 31, 2004 4:05 pm

Sadly, some homosexuals feel so inwardly ashamed at who their are that they channel those feelings into fighting against equal rights for the LGBT community. Yes, it is possible for a gay person to be conservative, but to be conservative on LGBT rights issues and be a latent homosexual is truly pityable.

Camp David wrote:That man is a disgrace to the Republican party. It is already most unfortunate that the Vice President's daughter is a shame to the Cheney family, but to have powerful conservative Republican voices revealed to be betraying their ideals is terrible. However, as twisted as this man is (I listened to the MP3, which was disgusting)- I feel that he did the right thing to resign. America needs to amend the Constitution to keep these liberal gays from believing they can actually achieve the sanctimony of marriage. For this to happen, the moral Republicans need to present a unified front. Shrock has shamed America worse than a hundred liberal faggots could.

Must...not...feed...troll....

Must....not.....kill...

The following statement can be assumed to be made through gritted teeth (squeezing a stress-ball, no less).

Not only is this post filled with idiotic, homophobic vitriol....not only does this post make absolutely no sense whatsoever...not only do you come off as sounding really, really fucking stupid...

Ugh, I really can't quite grasp the words here...I think I'll just leave Martin to do the right thing.

EDIT: If this is satire, it damn well needs the a </sarcasm> tag. You'd be suprised how many real people I run into who voice what Camp David said pratically verbatim

YH · Post by YH » Tue Aug 31, 2004 4:12 pm

Can anyone spell S-A-T-I-R-E? I bet Camp David can

StruckingFuggle · Post by **StruckingFuggle** » Tue Aug 31, 2004 4:33 pm

But rather poorly. Satire, after all, is best when it's subtle.

Personally, I'd be more amused if he were serious. Amused and frightened. But more amused.

knifeboy77 · Post by **knifeboy77** » Tue Aug 31, 2004 5:06 pm

Here's my opinion on the matter. I'm giving it because I'm almost sure someone asked for it.... No, probably not. Though here it is anyway.

I think everyone should just drop the whole "gay" bullshit. Seriously, we have MUCH more important things to worry about. Things like "Voting for the right president". I could care less if two gay men or two gay women can get married. I'm saying this as a conservative homo.... bi..... hetero.... *shrug*, I'll stick with bi this week, because I'm never sure. Depends on my mood.... lol.... Anyways.l

I'm very prepared to get picked apart for what I said, and by no means do I want to start a Rep v. Dem. conversation over who should be voted into office next term. I just don't think it should be on the top of their agendas at all times. The marriage thing. *shrug*

This is for the gay community AND for the "twits" on the forum (not all of you, but you know who you are

).... FLAME ON!

tikki_tikki2000 · Post by **tikki_tikki2000** » Wed Sep 01, 2004 5:40 am

I agree that being gay shouldn't be an issue. And I wish it could be like that, focusing on more important things, but sadly, we're stuck with a culture where homosexuality is a "bad" thing.

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