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Post by Deacon » Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:48 am

GLOBAL WARMING!!`1
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Post by Grumlen » Wed Sep 08, 2004 5:04 am

Actually Deacon, I was referring to just about all of Chrisitianity, not just Catholics. It's just that Catholics have the longest history and are more open about it than most people are. I know Catholics that are perfectly fine with my being an atheist, and Protestants that cannot show me any respect at all because I'm not of the same beliefs that they are. It's really all down at an individual level.

And yes Nekra, Christianity DOES have many pagan roots, but if you look back at any major religion you will ALWAYS see roots in major religions that came before it. They also grow and adapt to try and gain as many followers as possible. The only reason Christianity survived was because it was the first religion to maintain their beliefs even after being conquered. Until then, most people simply adopted the beliefs of their "masters."

Just as there are people that give Christianity a bad name, theres also people who give atheism a bad name. :roll:
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Post by Deacon » Wed Sep 08, 2004 5:08 am

It looks like Nekra has a challenger for "the knowingest of them all" title.
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Post by Nekra » Wed Sep 08, 2004 7:43 pm

theres also people who say the worlds flat, theres people who say evolution is a lie, theres people who say france isn't that bad..... :shifty:, theres people who say an american invented the Computer and the stamp, these people are wrong.....
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Post by Blaze » Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:13 pm

Well, just as a note we have no proof that evolution ABSOLUTLY happened, just some sort of similar process.

But what the hell is that supposed to prove? I mean.... ok, yeah, you list those things. They mean WHAT?
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Post by Triviarre » Thu Sep 09, 2004 12:03 am

They mean that people are idiots and that some people need to take all the bitching and moaning about religion to another thread. This thread is about extra terrestrials (or, at least, the possibility thereof.) It is, in no way, about Christianity vs Atheism. Take those rants to another thread.

And, for the love of NESF, quit being such a blatant moron. The world has enough idiots even without you. You could at least TRY to say something intelligent.

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Post by peter-griffin » Thu Sep 09, 2004 2:54 pm

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Post by BadMonkey » Thu Sep 09, 2004 3:22 pm

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Post by Blaze » Thu Sep 09, 2004 3:39 pm

Hey! I didn't start it, and I kept it to a minimum. Blame him! Blame him!

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Post by peter-griffin » Thu Sep 09, 2004 3:58 pm

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Post by Grumlen » Thu Sep 09, 2004 4:46 pm

Meh, sorry, but when someone doesn't understand one of my posts I like to clarify it. I'm not saying that I know everything about christianity. To do that I'd have to be a Christian in the religious sense, which I'm not.

But basically, I assume that there has to be life out there somewhere cuz if there isn't, it'd be a bloody waste of space. :shifty:
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Post by Rembrandt Q. Einstein » Thu Sep 09, 2004 5:45 pm

the thing is, even though the chances of developing intelligent life are ridiculously small, the sheer size of the unverse (i.e. infinite) would imply that somewhere else god rolled under his "create intelligent life" roll
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Post by Imperator Severn » Thu Sep 09, 2004 7:34 pm


the thing is, even though the chances of developing intelligent life are ridiculously small, the sheer size of the unverse (i.e. infinite) would imply that somewhere else god rolled under his "create intelligent life" roll

As there are infinite universes, there are infinite civilizations.

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Post by Blaze » Thu Sep 09, 2004 8:24 pm

As there are infinite universes, there are infinite civilizations.
1: Circular Logic. Tab A does not neccesarily fit slot B.

2. The Infinite Universes Quantum Physics model has some terrible math involved, and really breaks down at the atomic and subatomic levels. Ergo, is wrong.
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Post by Martin Blank » Fri Sep 10, 2004 4:09 am

Judging by some recent articles in Scientific American, it's not entirely impossible. The math for anything at that level gets really fuzzy and frustration, because as soon as you've solved for one variable, you've broken (or at least disturbed) three others, and that's why the solutions get so complex.

There's nothing that we know of barring infinities, because our frame of reference is limited to our own universe, which does not have a definable border that we've found so far. There may be an identical you some 10^(10^28) meters from here, according to one idea. Our universe may exist as one of infinite simultaneous universes, or as one of an infinite sequence of universes. Hard to tell at this point.
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