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[quote="Nekra";p="393924"]blaze, thats a terrible way to look at it. we will just come up with a another way to make petrol so we will never have to change to some other cleaner fuel method, screw the fact that all the evidence points to the fact that global warming is happening and that the excessive amounts of fossil fuels and pollution we release every day is just quickening the effect.[/quote]
The TDP (thermal depolymerization plant) mentioned before actually answers this while allowing continued use of oil. The main difference is that all of the carbon that comes out of the process comes from sources that are already "in play," so to speak. It's been breathed in as carbon dioxide into plants, eaten as food by animals, and thrown into the TDP to be recycled into oil. Net gain of carbon in the environment: zero. In fact, some of what comes out of the process is carbon black (pure carbon), which can be used to make industrial diamonds or graphite or various other carbon-based products, or, if we really wanted to, buried underground, sequestered away so as to store it where it can't be part of the process for another few millenia.
The TDP (thermal depolymerization plant) mentioned before actually answers this while allowing continued use of oil. The main difference is that all of the carbon that comes out of the process comes from sources that are already "in play," so to speak. It's been breathed in as carbon dioxide into plants, eaten as food by animals, and thrown into the TDP to be recycled into oil. Net gain of carbon in the environment: zero. In fact, some of what comes out of the process is carbon black (pure carbon), which can be used to make industrial diamonds or graphite or various other carbon-based products, or, if we really wanted to, buried underground, sequestered away so as to store it where it can't be part of the process for another few millenia.
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[quote="Nekra";p="393924"]blaze, thats a terrible way to look at it. we will just come up with a another way to make petrol so we will never have to change to some other cleaner fuel method, screw the fact that all the evidence points to the fact that global warming is happening and that the excessive amounts of fossil fuels and pollution we release every day is just quickening the effect. No all that matters is that people can use there cars for pointless journeys, using for the most part highly inefficient engines.
its not your fault but that attitude, endemic of the majority of the population isn't helping.[/quote]
GO AND FIND THE FUCKING FACTS, OR GO ONTO ANOTHER FUCKING FORUM.
Fucking hell, let's just ban idiotic hippies who refuse to put up facts, and instead just do one of those "LOOK MAN THE WORLD IS GONNA END ALL SIGNS ARE POINTING TO IT!!!" and fail to actually produce any "signs." Fucking hippies. All you do is smoke weed and smell bad.
Posted Thu Sep 09, 2004 2:47 pm:
Fucking hell. I want flooding. I want death, I want warm weather, I want catastrohpe, I want instant freezeover by way of disposition of upper-stratospheric air, I want unrealistic CG-animated tidal waves, I want a cheesy Hollywood ending, I want global warming!!!! Day after tomorrow forever lol!!! yay
its not your fault but that attitude, endemic of the majority of the population isn't helping.[/quote]
GO AND FIND THE FUCKING FACTS, OR GO ONTO ANOTHER FUCKING FORUM.
Fucking hell, let's just ban idiotic hippies who refuse to put up facts, and instead just do one of those "LOOK MAN THE WORLD IS GONNA END ALL SIGNS ARE POINTING TO IT!!!" and fail to actually produce any "signs." Fucking hippies. All you do is smoke weed and smell bad.
Posted Thu Sep 09, 2004 2:47 pm:
Fucking hell. I want flooding. I want death, I want warm weather, I want catastrohpe, I want instant freezeover by way of disposition of upper-stratospheric air, I want unrealistic CG-animated tidal waves, I want a cheesy Hollywood ending, I want global warming!!!! Day after tomorrow forever lol!!! yay
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[quote="peter-griffin";p="394480"]Fucking hell. I want flooding. I want death, I want warm weather, I want catastrohpe, I want instant freezeover by way of disposition of upper-stratospheric air, I want unrealistic CG-animated tidal waves, I want a cheesy Hollywood ending, I want global warming!!!! Day after tomorrow forever lol!!! yay[/quote]
Some say a comet will fall from the sky;
followed by meteor showers and tidal waves;
followed by fault lines that cannot sit still;
followed by millions of dumbfounded dipshits.
Some say the end is near.
Some say we'll see Armageddon soon.
I certainly hope we will.
I sure could use a vacation from this
Stupid shit.
Silly shit.
Stupid shit.
One great big festering neon distraction.
I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied:
learn to swim.
followed by meteor showers and tidal waves;
followed by fault lines that cannot sit still;
followed by millions of dumbfounded dipshits.
Some say the end is near.
Some say we'll see Armageddon soon.
I certainly hope we will.
I sure could use a vacation from this
Stupid shit.
Silly shit.
Stupid shit.
One great big festering neon distraction.
I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied:
learn to swim.
Here I am, to sing you a song. And there you are, asleep against the windowpane, just like always.
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I would also like to point out that everyone who brings up trees are growing 40% fast then we can consume them. Meaning the few post on how Oil usage is slowing tree grow is BS.
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are they mutually exclusive?
Kill a man, and you are an assassin. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill everyone, and you are a god.
<Randomperson2> Yes I am pretty sure my computer is trying to commit suicide.
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<Randomperson2> Yes I am pretty sure my computer is trying to commit suicide.
<RembrantQEinstein> Just watch to see if random Emo tracks start appearing in your playlists.
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martin: He posts useless, brainwashed, utterly cliché "savethe envirnoment!!! bushisevl" posts with absolutely no factual backing whatsoever, and calls people morons for not agreeing with his, you know, obviously correct view. Therefore, is it at all suprising that I respond with useless, vulgar, anti-disestablishmentarismist posts?
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[quote="peter-griffin";p="395125"]Therefore, is it at all suprising that I respond with useless, vulgar, anti-disestablishmentarismist posts?[/quote]
No, and I let you do it for a while, just like I let Deacon and Bjarni snipe for a while. I'm telling you now to knock it off.
No, and I let you do it for a while, just like I let Deacon and Bjarni snipe for a while. I'm telling you now to knock it off.
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