'Inalienable' is a rather strong word, isn't it?

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Post by Imperator Severn » Mon Sep 27, 2004 6:59 pm

This thread has gone on long enough. I believe I must administer the kiss of death and mention that this is an argument over semantics.

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Post by StruckingFuggle » Mon Sep 27, 2004 11:37 pm

And what's wrong with arguments over semantics? Semantics is an important thing ... that also happens to be linked here to a stupid forum... trend, or whatever you call it.

However, the proper definition of words (or semantics) are important to arguments - and I for one firmly believe that we don't split enough hairs in this modern world.
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Post by Imperator Severn » Tue Sep 28, 2004 12:31 am

SEMANTICS.

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Post by StruckingFuggle » Tue Sep 28, 2004 5:23 pm

:roll: Yes, Sev, semantics.
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Post by Imperator Severn » Tue Sep 28, 2004 5:28 pm

Do not underestimate the power of stupidity.

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Post by Grumlen » Tue Sep 28, 2004 5:40 pm

Actually, in a true arguement, you would define your words before you began your arguement. This arguement, however, was really a matter of semantics to begin with as it focused on a single word and whether certain actions defeated the purpose of that word or not.
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Post by SothThe69th » Tue Sep 28, 2004 7:24 pm

SEMANTICS DOES NOT APPROVE OF THIS THREAD.

SEMANTICS SUGGESTS A COLD BEER AND A PRETZEL FOR ALL INVOLVED, EXCEPT FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NOT GAINED THE INALIENABLE RIGHT TO DRINK BEER. THEY MAY HAVE PEPSIS.
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Post by JonnWood » Tue Sep 28, 2004 7:29 pm

SEMANTICS SUGGEST THAT JONN GET A WARM, TOASTY SUB AND ORANGE SODA FROM SUBWAY.

SEMANTICS DOES A LITTLE DANCE.

Maybye Soth should register a user called Semantics and post when appropriate.

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Post by SothThe69th » Tue Sep 28, 2004 8:04 pm

[quote="JonnWood";p="402526"]Maybye Soth should register a user called Semantics and post when appropriate.[/quote]

Actually, the mods apparently do not like gimmick accounts unless they themselves are running them.
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Re: 'Inalienable' is a rather strong word, isn't it?

Post by Blind Pyr0 » Tue Sep 28, 2004 8:39 pm

Well, I think we've found our problem, soth.

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Post by Triviarre » Tue Sep 28, 2004 10:45 pm

The Declaration of Independence wrote:life, liberty, and the persuit of happiness
freedom
The Declaration states that we have the right to liberty, which does not give us absolute freedom. Liberty and freedom are not equal in the face of the law. The difference between the two is that, while we can do anything we want, we have to accept the consequences from the actions we take.

Just to point out Semantics:
Liberty (http://www.webster.com) - permission especially to go freely within specified limits.

With that said, when you mentioned people being jailed as a violation of freedom (or so, that was the impression I had), it was, but it was not in violation of the statement, since it mentioned liberty and not freedom exclusively.

I would have mentioned this earlier, but I did not catch this until now.
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Post by Deacon » Tue Sep 28, 2004 11:26 pm

Trivi, hon, that's not the Constitution. That's the Declaration of Independence. In reality, there's a huge difference.
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Post by Triviarre » Tue Sep 28, 2004 11:37 pm

Fixed. Thanks Deacon.
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