Lots of fat cells don't kill people, lots of fatty foods do

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Post by Deacon » Thu Sep 23, 2004 4:19 pm

There are skin conditions and other such fun stuff caused by being fat, too, for instance, that go above and beyond the internal organs' health....
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Post by Mat3 » Thu Sep 23, 2004 5:00 pm

Fat cells can kill you.

a) More cells is a greater chance of cancer. (Also most fatty foods also have carcinogens but thats not the point)

b) The extra weight can put larger pressure on your legs and hips and reduce circulation to your legs. Leading to a greater likelyhood of Hip Replacements, and Amputations. Whilst these are routine procedures they still can be fatal, and the poor healthy coming from obesity increases the chance or Operating Room complications.

c) Fat people are more likely to be hit by a stray bullet. (Larger Surface Area)

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Post by randomperson2 » Thu Sep 23, 2004 5:02 pm

Don't forget about high blood presure caused by being overweight.

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Post by Rembrandt Q. Einstein » Thu Sep 23, 2004 5:34 pm

I think Mew Guy is just trying to convince us that his new 600 pound crush is healthy
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Post by Deacon » Thu Sep 23, 2004 5:37 pm

I say let him chase his chubbies until one of them catches him so he can know what it's like to live with an invalid monetary and emotional sinkhole. If you're obese, you're not healthy, and I'm not just talking about physically. There are emotional reprecussions when you keep a fork and a dozen twinkies in your purse.
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Post by mrchapel » Thu Sep 23, 2004 6:36 pm

Fat that clogs your arteries comes from fatty foods, not your fat body.
Isn't that called cholesterol? I don't know much about biology but I don't think the human body does much of its energy storage on the inside of arteries and veins.
It is possible to be fat and healthy at the same time. Just eat right and exercise.
Holy over simplication Batman! Your heart can be healthy but you still have all of the mentioned health risks (higher cancer risk, circulation problems, stray bullets)
I can't believe only one scientist has been able to figure this out and only a handful of people are listening to him.
I really have no idea why that is listed in you bulleted points but... generally any break through is known only by a few people at first. Not saying I think this is a break through of anykind, but you seem to.
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Re: Lots of fat cells don't kill people, lots of fatty foods

Post by Deacon » Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:15 pm

[quote="Mew Guy";p="400419"]It is possible to be fat and healthy at the same time. Just eat right and exercise.[/quote]
Seriously, I really do have to say something about this. Do you understand how incredibly fucking stupid you sound when you say shit like this? Eating right and exercising necessarily means you will not be fat, and if you remain fat, then you certainly should see a doctor, because you have severe health issues that must be addressed ASAP if possible.
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Post by Imperator Severn » Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:19 pm

ASAP if possible?

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Post by Deacon » Thu Sep 23, 2004 9:03 pm

I think I inserted ASAP after the fact. Not sure. Whatever.
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Post by mrchapel » Thu Sep 23, 2004 10:21 pm

Eating right and exercising necessarily means you will not be fat, and if you remain fat, then you certainly should see a doctor, because you have severe health issues that must be addressed ASAP if possible.
Eating right and getting lots for exercise will not simply turn back the clock, especially if you have been fat for a long period of time. Your body natualy tries to keep a certain weight. If it does not get the calories it needs you go into a sort of 'starvation mode' and your body will use its energy more efficently.

Now don't get me wrong it is impossible to very overweight and be healthy, but you can be overweight and still have a healthy heart and lungs. As I said other conditions will still apply.
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Post by ChronoUnleashed » Thu Sep 23, 2004 10:48 pm

Okay this feels a little like beating a dead horse at this point but I must say... being fat doesn't mean your unhealthy. Morbidly obese yes, but a little overweight isn't a problem really. But saying no heart problems when being obese :lol: thats just laughable.

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Post by Rembrandt Q. Einstein » Thu Sep 23, 2004 11:56 pm

Fat != Unhealthy

HOWEVER

There is a stong correlation between the two.
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Post by Deacon » Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:19 am

[quote="Rembrandt Q. Einstein";p="400648"]Fat != Unhealthy[/quote]
The only way I can possibly fathom how someone without a diseased mind desperate to believe that their depraved fetishes should be considered normal would say that would be if their definition of fat was anything over supermodel slim.
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Post by Imperator Severn » Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:30 am

I believe he meant the nutrient, not being overweight.

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Post by Rembrandt Q. Einstein » Fri Sep 24, 2004 1:07 am

no, I meant being overweight is not exactly unhealthy. You can technically be carrying around some excess baggage and otherwise be in good shape. I'm just saying that it's extremely rare, and that the assumption is, and should be, that if you are fat, you are unhealthy, it's just not a rule.
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