Homeschool students are terrorists?

Imperator Severn · Post by **Imperator Severn** » Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:16 am

But what if he doesn't burn, and he just gets pissed and kills us all? I'm not sure terrorists are made of wood.

JudgeMental · Post by **JudgeMental** » Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:16 am

LET'S BUILD A BRIDGE OUT OF 'IM!!!

I was homeschooled my entire life. I recently took my GED, both for kicks, and because I wanted some kind of accredited diploma or something. Anyway, I only got a 670 and a 680 in math and science (out of 800), but only because I was COMPLETELY screwing off during the test. Those two subjects are my strong subjects. In social studies and reading (reading I'm extremely strong in, but social studies I'm weak), I got 800, and I got 760 in writing, of which I am also rediculously weak.

I got a letter of commendation for my "high score," and was told that my score was in the top 1% in Oregon. Of all graduating students.

I sincerely hope I misunderstand what they mean by that. Those tests I took were rediculously easy. If so few can make it as high as I did, then yes, the public school system is messed up.

There ARE cases of where homeschooling goes completely and utterly wrong. A friend of mine "graduated" who only made it to Algebra 1/2. That's it, just math. No social studies, no writing, no science, just math. Basic math.

But, over all, my most educated friends have been homeschooled at one point or another. I do know a number of very intelligent public schooled friends, but I've helped them out with their homework, from freshmen to senior, honors and not. In every case, I felt my intelligence was insulted.

Homeschooling hardly works for everybody. But it's sorely underestimated. Where I to go into politics, I would flip the teachers unions and whatever aspects of public schools that hate homeschooling the birdy. I would then start advocating alternatives to public schooling, and try to offer incentives to do just that.

Perhaps the "fix" to the problems with public schools in Oregon lies not in the schools themselves...

Hmm, I wonder if this post will get the thread moved to Rants and Raves or Politics or something

*edit*

Why did I put politics there?

Oh well, ignore it.

Rembrandt Q. Einstein · Post by **Rembrandt Q. Einstein** » Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:57 am

Judgemental, the point is that GED's are taken by kids that drop out of high school, not everyone that graduates. Thus you are competing against dropouts who tend to be on the...lower end of the academic totem pole, not your average student.'

Homeschooling depends on the teacher, like any school, public, private, or..home. One of my mother's best friends homeschooled both of her kids, and she's a teacher. One went to Brown as is currently getting his Phd at Oxford, and the other went to Pratt for graphic design, and is currently making six figures straight out of college.

This same woman also has since written a book on homeschooling. Like I said, it depends on the teacher.

Posted Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:01 pm:

Of course, some kids don't even need schoo; :p

A friend of my brother's dropped out his Junior year, worked for three years, took his GED, aced them, and went to UMass. He got a 4.0 his first semester, and then proceeded to go to Oxford as a Rhode Scholar. He graduated as the valdeictorian of UMass, and is a Phd candidate at Oxford (he was actually offered a position as the protege of a Cornell professor (that position is offered once every two to three years), who is the foremost professor in this field in the U.S. but he was forced to turn it down due to personal reasons.)

so I guess it also depends on the kid too...

Deacon · Post by **Deacon** » Fri Sep 24, 2004 1:10 am

Well, in Texas you're required to take a TAAS test before graduating. I took mine in '98, the year I graduated. There was a massive shitstorm, claiming that the tests were ridiculously hard and design to keep minorities from passing, and there were constant accusations that teachers were teaching how to pass the test instead of teaching the class for real. I was concerned about the whole thing until I went and took the test myself.

What. A. Joke.

Seriously. If you can't pass that test, there's no fucking way you deserve to graduate, even if your teachers passed you so that you wouldn't have to keep sleeping through the same damn class forever. You'd have to be an outright goddamned retard to fail. I scored off the charts in math. For anyone who knows me, that ought to be enough right there. Part of the reason? You could bring damn near anything except a laptop to be used as a calculator, and ALL THE GEOMETRIC AND TRIGONOMETRIC FORMULAE WERE PRINTED AND ILLUSTRATED RIGHT THERE ON THE INSIDE COVER OF THE TEST BOOKLET. Think the SAT times about a million in terms of what they provide for you. All you have to do is plug in the numbers. Literally.

To think that people--a lot of people--struggled to pass that test was stomach-turning.

Teranfirbt · Post by **Teranfirbt** » Fri Sep 24, 2004 1:19 am

[quote="Deacon";p="400686"]
To think that people--a lot of people--struggled to pass that test was stomach-turning.[/quote]
We live in america, land of retarded people... I see them all day on the roads.

Blind Pyr0 · Post by **Blind Pyr0** » Fri Sep 24, 2004 1:56 am

k- (current)9th Public school.

Anyway, yeah, they were probably just making up that terrorist group so nobody at school could be offended, or just because they thought it was funny, no big deal.

JudgeMental · Post by **JudgeMental** » Fri Sep 24, 2004 2:25 am

Eh, even allowing for the fact that the GED is geared toward dropouts, it's extremely sad. The test is REDICULOUSLY easy. Yet, to pass, you only need a 450 average, with no individual test below 400. In order to get below that, either you have to be unable to string two words together, or unable to count above three.

In the math tests, they PROVIDED THE ANSWERS FOR YOU! On one page, they provided a sample science text. On the opposite page, MULTIPLE CHOICE questions regarding the text. I didn't bother reading the text at all.

GAAH! Why even bother with the test at all? The standards are so low that they might as well just take your money and rubberstamp your diploma. I'm insulted that they offer a formal cap-and-gown ceremony in the spring. And I'm VERY hard to insult.

Our standards nowadays are so messed up...

Rembrandt Q. Einstein · Post by **Rembrandt Q. Einstein** » Fri Sep 24, 2004 2:58 am

you have to be an outright retard to fail out of high school if you are actually trying. Oh, and Deacon in Massachusetts we had the MCAS, which was a similar issue, but my point was not regarding state standardized testing, but the GED.

Also, part of the reason a GED is so easy, is because it doesn't really carry a whole lot of weight. At best you can get into a state school or very low level Private school. From there you can obviously transfer depending on grades. A GED is not real impressive, if you ask me, what you do with it is.

JudgeMental · Post by **JudgeMental** » Fri Sep 24, 2004 3:43 am

Well, I just wanted it so I could get this one job with decent pay and flexible hours so I could go to college

I know it doesn't carry much weight. I don't care.

I have plans of becoming an engineer of one kind or another, and the moment I have college going, high school education becomes nil.

But still, why even bother having the test to begin with? To reiterate, they might as well just take your money and rubberstamp the diploma. If it's made for idiots to pass, and carries little weight, why bother with a test at all? Government funding?

Blah.

ajaxrynu · Post by **ajaxrynu** » Fri Sep 24, 2004 4:27 am

It seems like Ms. Malkin here sure dosen't have a problem pointing at the followers of Islam as the only terrorists in the world. The whole article seemed a bit hypocrytical to me.

Oh, this is just to rich. I read this in her biography at the bottom of the page...

"Her ground-breaking research and reporting led to her first book, Invasion: How America Still Welcomes Terrorists, Criminals, and Other Foreign Menaces to Our Shores (Regnery 2002), in which she argues "immigration must be treated as a national-security issue."

and later down in the paragraphs...

"Malkin, the daughter of Filipino immigrants, was born in Philadelphia and raised in southern New Jersey."

I'm sorry, but I find this individual completely full of USDA grade-A bull-shit.

The picture scares me too.....

praetorian · Post by **praetorian** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 10:11 pm

In florida, we have the same BS. We call it the FCAT. I took the test on 3 hours of sleep, and got top 1% on every category. The test included such rediculous questions as "how do you feel about...?" (subjective anyone?). As long as you vomited something that contained a few key words, you were good to go. Also the math settled in at a comfortable algebra 1 level. The test was an insulting waist of time. Then they had the audacity to disregard my first test results on a technicality, and forced me to take it again. All told...about 12 hours of my life that I can never regain.

Deacon · Post by **Deacon** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 10:33 pm

[quote="praetorian";p="402046"]The test was an insulting waist of time.[/quote]
How'd you do on the written portion?

praetorian · Post by **praetorian** » Tue Sep 28, 2004 3:37 am

LOL. Tired+inattentive=human error.

Besides...it's not my fault! He turned me into a newt!
.........I got better.

Terrik · Post by **Terrik** » Tue Sep 28, 2004 4:25 am

I stand truly amazed.

Ahem.

At anyrate, I took the FCAT as well, it was insignificant at it's best. It was nothing more than a mild bump in the road as far as academic tests go. As with many standardized tests back in the day when I was in high school,a good chunk of the cirriculum was focused around teaching students to pass said test.

Why? Because the test scores would directly affect a schools "grade" to the state, and in turn, would affect the amount of funding recevied by the school.

So what you had was a good portion of class time wasted on nothing but preperation for the FCAT and students passing through grades will less than optimal knowledge from their previous subjects.

Juliejamisons · Post by **Juliejamisons** » Tue Sep 28, 2004 9:45 am

Thats so ****ed up.

homeschool is dumb 90% of school is about dealing with over kids.

But its alittel dif for me becouse i goto a private school but is still not being home.

I notest that some of the home school kids are rude or smug or fat or lazy or dumb becouse there fokes dont force them to do the work.

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