Homeschool students are terrorists?

[Imperator Severn]

We live in america, land of retarded people... I see them all day on the roads.

Slay them.


Deacon is absolutely correct about the TAAS test. Not only were you merely required to plug in numbers, but the formulae were things you should have learned in the sixth or seventh grade. We took the TAAS test in the tenth grade at a level that suggested you could have made it to High School.

Now Texas has the big scary "TASP" test. I got suckered in to taking it so they could tell if it was too hard for later classes. It included a little Texas History (such as, "what city is the Alamo in?" And "After whom is Sam Houston College named after?") and some condescendingly stupid science questions "Which of the following is not an insect? A) Ant B) Wasp C) Puppy D) Ladybug"

ANyone who fails deserves to be expelled from school, euthanised, and burned in effigy.

[GoalieIDS]

[quote="Rembrandt Q. Einstein";p="400742"]Also, part of the reason a GED is so easy, is because it doesn't really carry a whole lot of weight. At best you can get into a state school or very low level Private school. From there you can obviously transfer depending on grades. A GED is not real impressive, if you ask me, what you do with it is.[/quote]

Wait wait wait, what's so bad about state schools? There are a lot of damn good state universities out there, and not all of them are a breeze to get in to (unless you're female, minority, non-citizen, or a combination thereof... so maybe it's easy for everyone ELSE but a white male middle class... but anyway). A lot of your top 10s in fields/areas are state schools, if I remember correctly.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean by state schools, but I'm proud to have graduated from mine.

I need a spell checker, does anyone have one?

Seriously... if you want to make a valid point or arguement, at least TRY to use propar grammar and spelling... Otherwise calling other people dumb and lazy doesn't really work too well.

[Beware of the Leopard]

Georgia Tech, 3rd ranked engineering school in the US and also a part of the State University System.

heheh, and...

Seriously... if you want to make a valid point or arguement, at least TRY to use propar grammar and spelling... Otherwise calling other people dumb and lazy doesn't really work too well.

[GoalieIDS]

Hey, I tried dammit! Spelling isn't my strong suit, and I'm a product of the public school system for the whole of my life. English and grammar weren't exactly the foci of my college education.

[Rembrandt Q. Einstein]

I'm not saying necessarily state schools are bad, in fact I'm going to one right now, and I'm proud I got in, and my first choice school was also a state schoo. My point is that that's the top end of the line. My brother's friend, given that he completed High School, could have easily attended an Iy League school out of High School instead of having to go to UMass for a year and a half. Plus, to get into a major state school, you need to have fantastic GED scores.

and hye, we all typo.

Posted Tue Sep 28, 2004 10:56 am:

PS: I'm attending the University of Connecticut, which is by far the top state university in the NorthEast, and one of the Top 10 in the country, IIRC.

[randomperson2]

You are making a mistake in combining coleges in a discussion of public schools. It is a widely accepted fact that coleges in the US are among the best, if not the absolute best in the world. However, elementary and secondary are simply pisspoor, compared to what else is available.

[GoalieIDS]

Depends on the location. My high school was pretty good, and public... since we got ungodly amounts of tax money every year from the nuke plant that was just outside our town. This paid for quality teachers (for the most part, the teacher who drove his van, then later his car, into the river drunk and later sexually harassed a middle school student, wasn't QUITE the norm. Oh yeah, instead of firing him, they sent him to the high school because apparently they wanted him around more developed girls or something. Stupid tenure.). Also paid for large amounts of new technology, etc. It WAS fairly well off in that area, at least while I was there.

Now, as soon as they tried to reappraise the plant and stop giving us that crapton of money (THINK it was like $1.5 mil a year or something along those lines, defenitely high), the school went way down hill and developed issues with the dealing of drugs (lots of ecstacy), teachers leaving, and things generally getting piss poor. That was the year after I graduated, hahaha.

[randomperson2]

exception not the rule, and the education you recived while exceptional by our standards was probably comisserate with that of a european school

[GoalieIDS]

Quite true. Are private schools here in the states really much better though? It has always been my impression that our elementary/secondary school was crap, and universities were good, whereas most of the world was reversed.

It all depends though (gotta love exceptions eh?), my pre-school was crazy... I knew my numbers/colors in french and german before I knew them in english. Too bad I forgot it all because my education after that wasn't nearly as good.

[Kizor]

Oookay... so, anyone know where old high school-level tests, the ones that are utter jokes, could be seen online? I've seen what you write about the TAAS, the TASP and the FCAT, but I still can't believe that the Most Powerful Country In The World(tm) could be screwing its offspring up that badly.

[randomperson2]

Private schools are variable as well. And Kizor, we aren't socialists, they are. It is a choice. They choose to be socialist and promote a higher standard of living for the lowest common denominatior. We however are staunchly capitolist. Our poor and stupid suffer more than the rest of the world, however, nowhere else on earth is there as much advancement oportunity.

You could think of it like this. The rest of the western world is a small room, they are all close together everyone is secure in their livelyhood but nobody has all the much space to breath.

The US got rid of the floor so they could raise the ceiling. Now either learn to fly, or you are in for a long fucking fall. In the end its a decision between two methods to persuing the same goal.

Posted Thu Sep 30, 2004 6:40 am:

This is alot easier argument to make with the give and take of a debate format but I think I got the gist of it across

[peter-griffin]

From our very own Asian reporter!

[Rembrandt Q. Einstein]

/me punches peter-griffin
for the love of god, at least ATTEPMT to contribute!

Aaaaanywho, yeah, my public school was fairly well off as well, as I live in a white-bread, upper-midle class Massachusetts suburb. There's plenty of money to go around. Of course, taht still doesn't mean teachers get paid anything, or we don't have to worry about bidget cuts, but we always had up to date textbooks and coputers.

[minsx]

just to feed the fire a little bit, let me tell you what I learned in my "Intro to Teaching" class (before I decided I didn't want to become a teacher).
Turns out that most of the propaganda claiming that our schools are totally broken is media hype (what isn't?). It's easy to sell hype, I guess. And many people buy it: I suppose it's easy to assume that the media tells the truth all the time . Actually, it's easy to assume that things are terrible elsewhere, especially when you can't see them yourself. Now this isn't to say that there aren't any bad schools out there, but overall, the picture isn't bad.

Essentially, a poll was taken across the USA to determine how parents would rank public schools. The answering was restricted parents that had children in the school system, and they had to give the grade to the school which their oldest child attended. In addition, they would (generally) rate the competing schools in the neighborhood, statewide, and countrywide.
The average across the nation was somewhere between an A and a B for most schools that were attended. But when people were required to rate the nation's schools, they rated B to D. In other words, most people like their schools, but they have a perception that the nation's schools are all broken. If anyone wants, I can give better details when I am not at work.

In any case, you also have to look at it thus: whatever you think about public schools, our Universities are among the top worldwide: nobody can argue that. And how do the students do that come from our "broken" public school system and attend the "world class" university? Just fine, in the end

Of course, that whole last bit disregards the part where many high schoolers don't go to college, but that's a choice for the most part, not a forced decision.

umm . . guess I am done