Can Money buy happiness?

[Imperator Severn]

I aspire to aq hell of a lot more than material wealth. Money, however, would certainly make my goals easier to accomplish.

[SothThe69th]

[quote="CyberEd";p="401748"]I'm not saying you can go by in this world without money. however I HAVE been in a situation where I worked 24 (yup 24) hours a day 12 days in a row (in the good case scenario, once in a while it mounted up to 28, once even 35 days) [/quote]

Fix that so that it makes sense. The world record for sleep deprivation is about 11 days, you're saying you broke that, and on occasion more than doubled, or on one occasion, more than tripled it. Unless you go by a time standard where there are more than 24 hours in a day, I somehow doubt the validity of your statement.

that was a crappy job, no one ASKED me if I wated to do it.

So then you were a slave, drafted into a freaky super commando death army or you settled for the shittiest job you could find. I don't see any other possibilities here.

was I unhappy - yes, at times. was it because of lack of anything material - no.

Exactly. You were unhappy with the job you were at. Gee, what have I been saying ALL ALONG?

I learned that in order to remain sane you have to enjoy whatever it is you already have.

No, that's deluding yourself. Remaining sane is always looking to move up in the world, in whichever way is most appropriate to your current tastes/needs.

the point is there's more to aspire in life than money.

Yes, you've already said that. A few times. And been refuted. And continued babbling incoherently.

people tend to take their freedom for granted, to take little things for granted - to take living for granted.

And you somehow have more time for these little things when your toiling away 40 hours a week?

RQE for example has a very ncie dream - and money could help achieve that goal - but if he wins the lottory tomorrow that might help him with less than half of it...

Lets see what money would and would not do-

Business- Check
House- Check
Kids College- Check
Supporting Family- Check
Getting the family in the first place- Nope (Actually, it's a maybe, but I presume he's not looking for a gold digger.).

Looks like about 80% of what he wants to do would be helped by money. Try again.

and don't forget that "the more money you come across the more problems you see"
taxes and insurances... all the bureaucracy nearly made me enlist again...

A CPA can solve a suprisingly large amount of your problems, knowledge of tax laws (And being an accountant.) does that, ya know. You know why you hire a CPA to do your taxes and whatnot? Because you have a metric fuckton of money in this case-scenario, so not only is it easier, but it also means you'll probably end out paying less taxes, and making wiser investments.

[Mandor]

Look, if you are so sure that money doesn't make you happy, I'm more than willing to carry this terrible burden for you.

[Evil Ghaleon Strife]

Yes. I shall send Mandor all of my non-happiness inducing green matter.

[CyberEd]

soth, I'm not saying I didn't sleep. but I was on duty while sleeping(which meant I was often woken up to do my job in the middle of the night), and you take every minute you got free to sleep.
it doens't have to be a commando, benig in a warzone does that to everyone, no matter what their job is.

I didn't say I had more of these little things, just the same amount I do now.
as I said you NEED money to survive in this world. you don't have to have money in order to be happy.

someone once told me that the lower you go the higher you can get.
I am standing now more or less in the same position I was 5 years ago financially
but I am a much happier person now. I realized all the good things in my life. I know now what's really important.

maybe it's because I'm not so coherent with me english that my message doesn't go through...
I'm not saying I don't need or want money. I'm studying in uni in order to get a proper job. money is part of our lives, I agree to that.
however it is not what makes a persons life full, it is not what makes a person happy.

[Grumlen]

Actually CyberEd, if you've ever read the G.I. bill you'd know that you're entitled to 4 hours of sleep per day by contract. Even if you are in the military and thus have no rights, the government is still bound by their contract with you. Now, of course, choosing to take those 4 hours of sleep while the enemy attacking may not be reccomended . . .

Anyways, heres my way of summarizing a bit and saying my opinions:

First off, the question is "Does having money imply happiness?" Well, this statement can easily be proven wrong by simply finding someone with money who isn't happy. The converse of this, "Does happiness imply having money?" can also be easily disproven. The same goes for the contrapositives of "Does not having money imply not having happiness?" and "Does not having happiness imply not having money?" Thus, by logical reasoning, there is no universal connection between the two.

However, this does not mean that these four statements can't be true for specific individuals. While I hold no illusions about being able to "but" happiness, I agree with the majority of people here in that it facilitates happiness. I may not be happier having $10 million in my pocket, but it would certainly make finding that happiness much easier since the problems and potential unhappiness of not having money should be obvious.

In the end, I must vote no as money in and of itself does not buy happiness.

[Imperator Severn]

So much for my stereotype of all Israelis as hard-asses.

[Deacon]

[quote="Grumlen";p="401908"]First off, the question is "Does having money imply happiness?" Well, this statement can easily be proven wrong by simply finding someone with money who isn't happy. The converse of this, "Does happiness imply having money?" can also be easily disproven. The same goes for the contrapositives of "Does not having money imply not having happiness?" and "Does not having happiness imply not having money?" Thus, by logical reasoning, there is no universal connection between the two.[/quote]
No, you're using faulty logic in a false dichotomy. Just because you can find someone with money who is unhappy does not mean that money cannot facilitate fulfillment, what is commonly referred to as "happiness". Just because you can find someone without much money who is fulfilled also does not "disprove" it, either. Money is a tool. If used wisely, it can facilitate fulfillment. It can "buy happiness". It has the ability to do so, in some cases (I would argue "most cases" where the individual involved is even half-way mature). It doesn't mean that it DOES, in every case, because it may not be used to facilitate fulfillment, or it may be unsuccessfully used in a way that's intended to bring about that result. But the issue at that point is in the (mis)use of the tool, not in the tool itself.

Now, I realize you pretty much said exactly that further down in your post, but I wanted to make sure it was clear to anyone who didn't get it already. I do like the way you summarized it, though: "I may not be happier having $10 million in my pocket, but it would certainly make finding that happiness much easier since the problems and potential unhappiness of not having money should be obvious."

In the end, I must vote no as money in and of itself does not buy happiness.

The question is whether money can buy happiness, not whether money does buy happiness. Pay attention

[Imperator Severn]

Money does not guarantee happiness, but it makes it easier to come by. Simple enough.

[RadicalDreamer]

Nope. Case in point: Every fucking Behind the Music EVER.

That, and Buddha.

[Jezebel]

I know I would be a hell of a lot more happy if I could sit around naked playing Sims 2 all day instead of working. So I vote yes.

[mikehendo]

Nekkid Party!

[Azurain]

Money can alleviate unhappiness, but not really buy happiness. At least, that's the way I look at it, simplistically... really it's a much more complex sort of subject, but I don't think we need to get into a philosophical analysis of the question. : )

[Rembrandt Q. Einstein]

too late

[Azurain]

I really ought to start using [sarcasm] tags...