NBC, Wash Post, NY Times, CBS...another false story

[SewardSaint]

MSNBC

New York Times

Edit: Come on, people. A little courtesy, please? -- Martin

On monday, CBS, NBC, Washington Post, and the NY Times ran yet another false story in hopes to make the Bush administration seem "unworthy." These reports say that 380 tons of high explosives were stolen recently from under the watchful eye of U.S. forces. Kerry also jumped on the band wagon by saying, "Now we know that our country and our troops are less safe because this president failed to do the basics." Kerry also said, "This is one of the great blunders of Iraq, one of the great blunders of this administration. The incredible incompetence of this president and his administration has put our troops at risk and put our country at greater risk than we ought to be." What risk should we be at Senator? According to Kennedy, the United States is under no great risk.

This story is completely false. I don't know how the media gets away with this. What you don't hear is the truth, and the truth is, these explosives were missing before the war on Iraq. And what you don't hear is that the precious UN officials were the people responsible for guarding the building where these explosives were housed. I find this to be another desperate attempt to sway voters to Kerry's side, and the liberal media will see that until someone calls their bluff, they will run false stories.

Well, this report has already been ran on 04-10-03. NBC has already printed a retraction, but will not apologize. The funny thing is, the Kerry campaign is now in production to run tv commercials over the missing explosives. Another funny thing is that Kerry is expected to criticise the Bush administration concerning these explosives. Kerry is expected to mention something along the lines of terrorists, (with these 380 tons of explosives), could produce WMDs.

This is the "october surprise" says one critic of the liberal media.

[Salvation122]

Here's a Washington Times aritcle describing the situation. Basically, it's more bullshit from 60 Minutes. Anyone who claims that CBS isn't as bad or worse than Fox is deluding themselves.

[SewardSaint]

How true is that.

[StruckingFuggle]

So, you'd agree that Fox is as bad as CBS?

[Deacon]

No. Not flopping around in the muck, suckling at the left's teat, hanging on every word of "progressives" around the world does not equate to CBS, and that's assuming that's even accurate when applied to Fox News. I think the only thing people don't like about Fox News is that it's not just another leftist puppet organization, blending into the background with so many others. They don't tell guys like O'Reilly to stfu when he's not espousing liberal views. Of course, that means pure evil.

[Mr.Shroom]

Actually, I just don't like Fox News because they tend to use fallacious terminology and blatant spin doctoring when reporting, and often give forth more opninon than they do fact with a smug sneer or near acid-coated zealousness. True, nowadays, all news stations due this to an excessive degree, but Fox News started doing it big and bold right from the get-go. I think alot of the news stations followed suit, and it just has gotten worse from there.

That and Fox's debate styles seems to be more agressive and combative three-ring-circus than an actual attempt to share ideas and come to a conclusion. But thats true of quite a few of today's methods for debating with various news stations.

O'Reilly has some good ideas and opinions. I just wish he wouldn't scream them over those of the people he's supposed to be interviewing. Book wasn't a bad read, either, I've heard.

But yes. Current level of modern media news reporting has hit the toliet, regardless of political agenda or background creed. Our news is becoming a ratings and near-propaganda action show as opposed to a place you can get the news. But I've ranted on that before. (See the 'Why I love John Stewart' thread)

[SewardSaint]

[quote="Mr.Shroom";p="414791"]Actually, I just don't like Fox News because they tend to use fallacious terminology and blatant spin doctoring when reporting, and often give forth more opninon than they do fact with a smug sneer or near acid-coated zealousness. True, nowadays, all news stations due this to an excessive degree, but Fox News started doing it big and bold right from the get-go. I think alot of the news stations followed suit, and it just has gotten worse from there. That and Fox's debate styles seems to be more agressive and combative three-ring-circus than an actual attempt to share ideas and come to a conclusion. But thats true of quite a few of today's methods for debating with various news stations.[/quote]

I think this is purely opinion and very little, if any, fact.

So, you'd agree that Fox is as bad as CBS?

I don't believe any network is as bad as CBS for the fact that this is the second time CBS has ran a false story to influence the election. I believe there was at least one last election too, with the story concerning Bush's so called DWI.

[mikehendo]

Seward, Shroom presented a well reasoned argument using commonly agreed upon viewpoints concerning Fox News. Both Fox and CBS are bogus channels to turn to for the news, then again, all cable news stations are the same BS. The only difference between Fox news and CBS is that Fox is less likely to completely fabricate a story, because they are more likely to be attacked for it than say, a CBS or a CNN.

[Ric_Price]

[quote="SewardSaint";p="414841"]I believe there was at least one last election too, with the story concerning Bush's so called DWI.[/quote]

I am saying this as one of the strongest supporters of Bush on these here forums. For you to NOT believe in the story of the DWI is laughable. The President has OPENLY admitted to being arrested on a charge of DWI, but because of family influence in the area he got off with a slap on the wrist. Now mind you he was in his 20's then he did this, but it was true.

[SewardSaint]

[quote="mikehendo";p="414921"]Seward, Shroom presented a well reasoned argument using commonly agreed upon viewpoints concerning Fox News.[/quote]

I happen to think that FOX news is more than slightly greater than CBS.

[Stax]

Well, a couple of things.

First...

think this is purely opinion and very little, if any, fact.

Right, that's why every time there's an 'equal discussion' on FOX, the republican commentator gets twice as long, is never interrupted by either the host or commercials, and always looks nice and polished while the Dem is always some sweaty balding guy in a golf shirt.

Add onto that that even on shows ironically named like the "No-Spin Zone", hosts openly say who they support, why they support them, and just blatently alter the news because of it. The moment you know a newscaster's personal opinion, your's is changed by it because it has been presented to you through the news.

Now onto the story itself, where you are once again wrong. They aren't 'stirring up' an old story to through dirt at Bush, the IAEA just recently concluded their study and sent out their findings. When new information arises, the story is told. Period. Were all the news stations racist because they kept reporting on the Kobe Bryant trial as new evidence was presented, even though the event itself happened months ago?

[Deacon]

I feel like your avatar when reading that post, Stax.

[mikehendo]

[quote="SewardSaint";p="414948"][quote="mikehendo";p="414921"]Seward, Shroom presented a well reasoned argument using commonly agreed upon viewpoints concerning Fox News.[/quote]

I happen to think that FOX news is more than slightly greater than CBS.[/quote]
In the spirit of image macros

[SewardSaint]

[quote="Stax";p="414990"]When new information arises, the story is told. Period.[/quote]

There wasn't any new information fucktard. And the news agencies knew the story had already been ran, yet they aired it again. FOX is biased towards conservatives, yes. On the other hand, the other networks are the other way. And one of those networks has ran two false stories to try and sway the election. If you don't think this isn't happening, and if you think the liberal media doesn't have an agenda, you are freakin' pathetic. How can you argue any part of that story, it's all fact (except for the DWI which Price has already informed me of.)

[Rembrandt Q. Einstein]

I'm so sick and tired of this bullshit.

Look, it's a presidential race, the bullshit on both sides couldn't be cut with a chainsaw, so why don't we all stop pretending that this is so radical and unforseen and that our candidate is squeaky clean and would never run this sort of BS report. Okay?

It's a dirty race on both sides, so why don't we put that aside and just vote on the issues, stuff like this is whay I despise the average american voter.