My Frys Electronics Experience

Teranfirbt · Post by **Teranfirbt** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 1:36 am

I don't see why a driver's learner's permit isn't a valid form of ID, you have to use the same exact forms ID required by a driver's license to get it.

gravity · Post by **gravity** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 3:48 am

[quote="Brim Mar";p="435565"]
[quote="gravity";p="435535"](The ID was not fake, either. It was a driver's permit and his old HS photo ID. Those two shown at the same time confirm his image identity and his legal identity, or something like that.)[/quote]

No, not really. A store has the right to reject the check if a valid form of ID is shown, and a driving permit really isn't valid, especially for checks. I believe it is Drivers Liscenses, State IDs, Birth Certificates, School IDs, Passports, and a few other ones.
Atleast at our store.
People always get pissed off like its our fault that they dont know our rules.[/quote]

He showed his drivers permit AND his high school photo ID. The Washington State drivers permits are valid forms of ID for minor things such as a check, but not for getting a driver's license. They have this giant stamp on them that says 'Valid form of ID without photo', but everyone ignores them, hence the HS photo ID that was also shown.

Brim Mar · Post by **Brim Mar** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 4:19 am

[quote="Teranfirbt";p="435579"]I don't see why a driver's learner's permit isn't a valid form of ID, you have to use the same exact forms ID required by a driver's license to get it.[/quote]

I dont know if your states is different from ours, but ours is just a little white slip of paper with information on it. Then again, what 15 year olds have checking accounts, I haven't seen many people use a permit to write checks with.

gravity · Post by **gravity** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 6:22 am

[quote="Brim Mar";p="435623"][quote="Teranfirbt";p="435579"]I don't see why a driver's learner's permit isn't a valid form of ID, you have to use the same exact forms ID required by a driver's license to get it.[/quote]

I dont know if your states is different from ours, but ours is just a little white slip of paper with information on it. Then again, what 15 year olds have checking accounts, I haven't seen many people use a permit to write checks with.[/quote]

In Washington State a Permit is solid plastic, and looks nearly exactly like a license but it has no photo, and has Permit written across the top.

And my little brother is 18, he just hasn't gotten around to getting his license yet. There's a good bus system up here, and he really doesn't need his license for another year, when I move out and he has to drive to college for ungodly early finals.

Teranfirbt · Post by **Teranfirbt** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 6:49 am

[quote="Brim Mar";p="435623"][quote="Teranfirbt";p="435579"]I don't see why a driver's learner's permit isn't a valid form of ID, you have to use the same exact forms ID required by a driver's license to get it.[/quote]

I dont know if your states is different from ours, but ours is just a little white slip of paper with information on it. Then again, what 15 year olds have checking accounts, I haven't seen many people use a permit to write checks with.[/quote]
Ah, ok, that makes sense..
Here in oregon, the only way to tell between a permit and a license is to look at the title... The permit is basically a license that they put the words "Learner's permit" on (actually, I can't remember what it says, I've had my license for so long..)

Arc Orion · Post by **Arc Orion** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 7:01 am

Yeah, permits are perfectly valid forms of ID in Washington state. When I had mine, one of the reasons I got it was specifically so I'd have ID. And I very much prefer the way Washington State Driver's Licenses and IDs look over other state IDs. They're pretty.

Archive_Sensei · Post by **Archive_Sensei** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:55 am

::laughs:: I can't help it...

I'm a random person. I thought it was weird to see this little cafe/restraunt right in the middle of the store. But I suppose it makes sense. With the size of those stores, you could starve trekking around in them.

Deacon · Post by **Deacon** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 3:56 pm

[quote="gravity";p="435672"]but it has no photo[/quote]
DING DING DING DING DING DING WE HAVE A WINNAR KTHXBYE

gravity · Post by **gravity** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 5:40 pm

[quote="Deacon";p="435834"][quote="gravity";p="435672"]but it has no photo[/quote]
DING DING DING DING DING DING WE HAVE A WINNAR KTHXBYE[/quote]

That's why he showed the photo on his HS ID!

Besides, all permits are marked, in VERY large letters 'Valid without Photo'.

Rileyrat · Post by **Rileyrat** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 8:20 pm

My DL is a giant piece of paper with a couple of sigs on it and my info. Doesn't even require a photo ID with it to be valid. Colorado is having some crazy problem with getting the hard copy DLs to people so they used the paper ones that used to say valid for 30 days on them and just put the normal 10 year experation date on them. Funny thing is I have 2 other photo IDs., my military ID and another for my medical privileges on base.

Deacon · Post by **Deacon** » Sat Dec 18, 2004 12:22 am

Lith. Listen. Concentrate hard, if you have to. If you write a check, it may be store policy to have a valid photo ID (or two). A piece of laminated paper with no photo on it, no matter how "valid" that piece of paper may proclaim itself to be, will not be sufficient.

gravity · Post by **gravity** » Sat Dec 18, 2004 12:30 am

[quote="Deacon";p="436020"]Lith. Listen. Concentrate hard, if you have to. If you write a check, it may be store policy to have a valid photo ID (or two). A piece of laminated paper with no photo on it, no matter how "valid" that piece of paper may proclaim itself to be, will not be sufficient.[/quote]

It is in Washington state. (And permits in WA aren't lamenated paper, they look EXACTLY like a state license. )

And yes, with BOTH ID's my little brother has written checks in MANY places without any difficulty. The cashier in question was just being an ass about it. None of my friends have had problems in Fry's with writing checks/using cards of any sort and they generally only show HS/College ID's.

Archive_Sensei · Post by **Archive_Sensei** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 12:01 pm

w00t! I come back to check on the thread progress and what do I find? A post on it by Greg Dean (thanks Greg!). It might be silly but I am oddly happy about that. It is a nice store. Someday I wish to have a PC game worthy comp (AMV worthy too. AMV=Anime Music Video). Would Fry's be the place for systems, parts, etc?

Guys...It's not going to do much good to argue with each other over this ID thing. It's in the past and the issue isn't with someone here but with the store itself, if it's worth pursing as an issue to you. Let's find a friendlier topic, k?

Please don't get mad at me though... I don't mean to demean your concerns or anything.

Post by **Martin Blank** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 7:48 pm

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the games that can be played with Fry's salespeople.

You go in, and wander around a single aisle until a salesperson comes up to you and offers assisstance. Start asking about the differences between some products, but start at the very low end, like you've barely even seen a computer before (don't actually say this, though). Slowly begin to ask more detailed questions. For example, with video cards, you can ask which will look better, and then progress to questions about speed, then move to AGP speeds, then to texture swapping, then to anti-aliasing and then to anisotropic filtering (note the generally increasing word sizes). See how long it takes before other salespeople are brought in, and then count the total number of them you talk to before you get the right answer. (This works best with the salesmen, on the odd chance you find a female in this role.)

Alternately, if you're into personal mental games, hang around the salespeople and see how long it takes for your eye to begin twitching and/or your head to begin hurting while listening to the "advice" they give the customers.

Archive_Sensei · Post by **Archive_Sensei** » Mon Dec 27, 2004 12:15 pm

That sounds like the kind of evil thing I would do if I knew enough about computers.

I play mind games with a few of my customers at Value Village though. For example, one of my favorite customers was in my register line one day and when she reached the counter, she started to get something from her wallet, saying: "Oh, I have one of those coupons." Without hesitating, I looked her in the eye with a straight face and replied, "I'm sorry but we don't take those from you anymore."

The look on her face was one of the funniest things I'd seen in a long time. Complete shock. Until I broke and laughed, "You didn't really believe me, did you?" Then she relaxed and looked honestly relieved, "I really did!"

Not truly evil, I know, but still pretty amusing. I have to be nice to customers.

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