Makes more sence.
But how can he slip like that?
I mean billions must be nothing to him if he doesn't bat an eyelid at 36 billion.
Still 360 Million, good effort, even if america did need a prod first
W-w-w-w-w-w-wipeout!
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I saw bush on TV say that america was going to donate 36 Billion dollars which I was like "wow, when did they get so generous" then the newscaster said "what president bush ment was million"
Makes more sence.
But how can he slip like that?
I mean billions must be nothing to him if he doesn't bat an eyelid at 36 billion.
Still 360 Million, good effort, even if america did need a prod first
Makes more sence.
But how can he slip like that?
I mean billions must be nothing to him if he doesn't bat an eyelid at 36 billion.
Still 360 Million, good effort, even if america did need a prod first
I resurve the right to be inconsistant (and bad at spelling)
Deacon wrote: RISC processors are rubbish, and anyone that wants to know about them is rubbish.
I just find RISC processors very dull (unless you made it yourself, then that's impressive, it's like buying an expensive car, well done you can spend money.
I still have bigger penis than you.
On 9/11 ...
If you're talking about financial aid, well... nobody ever really gives financial aid to Western nations when they have a crisis like this, given that, you know, we're the richest part of the world. We can handle our own crises, financially. But tremendous aid and support of other kinds was given to the USA after 9/11 and fuck you for suggesting that it wasn't. It's not our fault your idiot president squandered the world's goodwill through is insane machinations.
Now, back to the subject at hand... If someone could link me to anywhere where the UN singled out the USA as being stingy, that'd be great. If you're bitching about how a NY Times columnist wrote about the USA's lack of generosity when its contributions were sitting at just 35 million, well, for a nation of 300 million people with the highest per capita gross income of any large developed nation, 35 million was very low at that point. He later rescinded his statement somewhat once the USA upped its donation levels to be more in line with those of the rest of the developed world.
YH does have a point that it's rather telling that the thread on this subject wasn't directed toward the tragedy or what could be done to help so much as it was all about Americans getting hyper-defensive about how generous they are based upon a misquoted statement by a UN official and an old article from one single newspaper.
Seriously, 150 000 people are likely dead and we're applauding people who manage to be a little eloquently defensive about USA generosity? This is exactly the sort of egotism that so often pisses the rest of the world off.
... I did like the cartoon, though.
You're right, Canada did absolutely nothing at all to help out the USA. Certainly hundreds of us didn't open up our very homes to American strangers after their flights were redirected into Canada. No no.I seriously want to know because I don't recall hearing about any kind of foreign aid being given to us for our tragedy.
If you're talking about financial aid, well... nobody ever really gives financial aid to Western nations when they have a crisis like this, given that, you know, we're the richest part of the world. We can handle our own crises, financially. But tremendous aid and support of other kinds was given to the USA after 9/11 and fuck you for suggesting that it wasn't. It's not our fault your idiot president squandered the world's goodwill through is insane machinations.
Now, back to the subject at hand... If someone could link me to anywhere where the UN singled out the USA as being stingy, that'd be great. If you're bitching about how a NY Times columnist wrote about the USA's lack of generosity when its contributions were sitting at just 35 million, well, for a nation of 300 million people with the highest per capita gross income of any large developed nation, 35 million was very low at that point. He later rescinded his statement somewhat once the USA upped its donation levels to be more in line with those of the rest of the developed world.
YH does have a point that it's rather telling that the thread on this subject wasn't directed toward the tragedy or what could be done to help so much as it was all about Americans getting hyper-defensive about how generous they are based upon a misquoted statement by a UN official and an old article from one single newspaper.
Seriously, 150 000 people are likely dead and we're applauding people who manage to be a little eloquently defensive about USA generosity? This is exactly the sort of egotism that so often pisses the rest of the world off.
... I did like the cartoon, though.
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper.
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper.
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Azurain, out of curiosity, how rich do you think I am? You think I make a million dollars while rent is a buck? I'm sure I make lots of money compared to most of the villagers wiped out by the tsunami, but it also costs me a lot more to live. You can come up with all kinds of ways to justify your argument that we should bleed in place of you, but until you really are bleeding, I don't want to hear it, especially after you finish lecturing all us stingy Americans about the rampant poverty in inequalities inherent in our troubled, lopsided, and generally evil and vile country....
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[quote="Deacon";p="440201"]especially after you finish lecturing all us stingy Americans about the rampant poverty in inequalities inherent in our troubled, lopsided, and generally evil and vile country....[/quote]
Deacon, nominated for the 2005 "putting words in other people's mouths" award.
Deacon, nominated for the 2005 "putting words in other people's mouths" award.
Gawd bless Ah-merica, and noplace else, y'all.
seeing deacons ava, and right after that looking at borts is quite amusing...
on a different note. deacon, no one claims the USA citizens are ritch. however you MUST see that the USA's economical power (as a nation) is by far stronger and ritcher than sri-lanka's/thailand/india 's economical power... in fact the europian block and the USA are the strongest economical powers in the world today. upon making donations, one would expect that fact to show... that one being yours truely.
as while talking about money, I heard (on CNN news) a thailander official saying that they would rather get help in the form of experts (medical experts, masonary experts and so on...) so they could LEARN and be able to rebuild their own country
on a different note. deacon, no one claims the USA citizens are ritch. however you MUST see that the USA's economical power (as a nation) is by far stronger and ritcher than sri-lanka's/thailand/india 's economical power... in fact the europian block and the USA are the strongest economical powers in the world today. upon making donations, one would expect that fact to show... that one being yours truely.
as while talking about money, I heard (on CNN news) a thailander official saying that they would rather get help in the form of experts (medical experts, masonary experts and so on...) so they could LEARN and be able to rebuild their own country
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Then do that with the money. That's the whole point of taking money out of our pockets and giving it to you for free. Pay top-shelf, qualified professionals to leave their homes and their families to move to a totally foreign 3rd world country and bring up a new crop of doctors, pediatricians, architects, builders, waste system managers, masons, plumbers, and so on... With nearly half a billion US dollars, you'd think you could coax some people out. Money isn't worthless. Money is the energy you need to fuel your growth. I personally cannot go train people to be ER surgeons. I can contribute to a fund used to do that, however. What do you think the money's for? You wonder why these people continue to live second-rate lives? Because they can't think on their own, can't actually take care of business when it comes down to it. Same reason why most lottery winners wind up in bankruptcy shortly after cashing in their winning ticket.
The follies which a man regrets the most in his life are those which he didn't commit when he had the opportunity. - Helen Rowland, A Guide to Men, 1922
The Coyote Kid, Deacon,
You both have said things better than any of the rest of us could so Kudos for that.
To the rest of you,
America is not your bitch you call on whenever you need money. We are willing to help where help is needed. For fucks sake though, get off of our backs when we don't do things like you think we should. Most of you are convieniently forgetting that the 35 million we originally pledged was the entire emergency aid budget for the year. Why don't we see the rest of you wiping out your emergency aid budgets to help those people then when clearence is given through proper channels, coming back with more?
You both have said things better than any of the rest of us could so Kudos for that.
To the rest of you,
America is not your bitch you call on whenever you need money. We are willing to help where help is needed. For fucks sake though, get off of our backs when we don't do things like you think we should. Most of you are convieniently forgetting that the 35 million we originally pledged was the entire emergency aid budget for the year. Why don't we see the rest of you wiping out your emergency aid budgets to help those people then when clearence is given through proper channels, coming back with more?
that sounds horrifyingly prejudice.You wonder why these people continue to live second-rate lives? Because they can't think on their own, can't actually take care of business when it comes down to it. Same reason why most lottery winners wind up in bankruptcy shortly after cashing in their winning ticket.
maybe they live so second rated because they get less opertunities ? maybe there is less product to go around more people ? maybe they don't think of their lives as second-rate and like their countries the way they are ? that has nothing to do with how smart or capable these people are...
they now need help because a badass wipeout has occured and 120,000 people are dead.
can you even grasp that number ? how many people live in your building ? how many people in your nieghborhood ? try imagining 120,000 people dead...
and I'm sure thailand india and srilanka are thankful for every penny - no matter who it's from.
Oh, please. I'm sure that in every one of our cynical hearts, we know that they don't thank us. We know that they are worthless, ungrateful vultures that like to pick off on our blood and livelihood.
You know? All those stories about Thais being modest aren't probably true at all. No, they don't help out on their own people. No, they probably don't help those foreigners who are still stuck there, don't give them places to stay and rest! Don't acknowledge the efforts of the foreigners, and just give completely praise to their own.
Yeah, that's what they are, aren't they? Just 120,000 in a world of billions of people. A small, rotten and useless chip off the old block.
You know? All those stories about Thais being modest aren't probably true at all. No, they don't help out on their own people. No, they probably don't help those foreigners who are still stuck there, don't give them places to stay and rest! Don't acknowledge the efforts of the foreigners, and just give completely praise to their own.
Yeah, that's what they are, aren't they? Just 120,000 in a world of billions of people. A small, rotten and useless chip off the old block.
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[quote="TDINTBL";p="439030"]Interestingly enough scientists say that the earthquake sped up Earth's rotationg by a fraction of a second and started the Earth wobbling on its axis, that's one HELL of a huge fucking quake.[/quote]
The earth has always wobbled on it's axis. Ton's of things effect the earth's rotational speed and axis wobble. Every day the world speeds up and slows down by a fraction of a second. Speaking of that, imagine if all the cars faced the opposide direction of the earth's rotation and took off as fast as they could at once? Imagine what would happen then ^^.
The earth has always wobbled on it's axis. Ton's of things effect the earth's rotational speed and axis wobble. Every day the world speeds up and slows down by a fraction of a second. Speaking of that, imagine if all the cars faced the opposide direction of the earth's rotation and took off as fast as they could at once? Imagine what would happen then ^^.
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[quote="YH";p="440405"]Oh, please. I'm sure that in every one of our cynical hearts, we know that they don't thank us. We know that they are worthless, ungrateful vultures that like to pick off on our blood and livelihood.[/quote]
Who are you talking about? The people receiving the aid or the people sitting back in their comfy sofas, sipping tea, and chiding the US for not "giving till it hurts"?
[quote="CyberEd";p="440400"]
Sorry, buddy, that's called experience, growing up in 3rd world countries. It's not usually a genetic thing, where they're simply incapable of learning or thinking on their own due to some physical limitation, any more or less than the rest of us. It's their culture, their education system, their lifestyles, their diet growing up...it's everything rolled into one. Yeah, reality doesn't seem to PC sometimes :/
Who are you talking about? The people receiving the aid or the people sitting back in their comfy sofas, sipping tea, and chiding the US for not "giving till it hurts"?
Ah. Sounds like you've confused the people desperate for aid and the people who sit on the sidelines and snipe at those who try to help.You know? All those stories about Thais being modest aren't probably true at all. No, they don't help out on their own people. No, they probably don't help those foreigners who are still stuck there, don't give them places to stay and rest! Don't acknowledge the efforts of the foreigners, and just give completely praise to their own.
According to the harshly pragmatic view of some of the posters on this forum, that would be a fair assessment.Yeah, that's what they are, aren't they? Just 120,000 in a world of billions of people. A small, rotten and useless chip off the old block.
[quote="CyberEd";p="440400"]
that sounds horrifyingly prejudice.[/quote]You wonder why these people continue to live second-rate lives? Because they can't think on their own, can't actually take care of business when it comes down to it. Same reason why most lottery winners wind up in bankruptcy shortly after cashing in their winning ticket.
Sorry, buddy, that's called experience, growing up in 3rd world countries. It's not usually a genetic thing, where they're simply incapable of learning or thinking on their own due to some physical limitation, any more or less than the rest of us. It's their culture, their education system, their lifestyles, their diet growing up...it's everything rolled into one. Yeah, reality doesn't seem to PC sometimes :/
Those coutries so far have not been any problem as far as complaints or a lack of thankfulness (that I'm aware of, at least).can you even grasp that number ? how many people live in your building ? how many people in your nieghborhood ? try imagining 120,000 people dead...
and I'm sure thailand india and srilanka are thankful for every penny - no matter who it's from.
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[quote="Azurain";p="440154"]
You're right, Canada did absolutely nothing at all to help out the USA. Certainly hundreds of us didn't open up our very homes to American strangers after their flights were redirected into Canada. No no.
If you're talking about financial aid, well... nobody ever really gives financial aid to Western nations when they have a crisis like this, given that, you know, we're the richest part of the world. We can handle our own crises, financially. But tremendous aid and support of other kinds was given to the USA after 9/11 and fuck you for suggesting that it wasn't. It's not our fault your idiot president squandered the world's goodwill through is insane machinations.[/quote]
First off, the majorty of passengers that were redirected to Canada ended up sleeping in the airport. While some Canadians did allow Americans to stay in there house for a day or two I seriously doubt you were one of them. As for the "Fuck you" statement you took what was said way out of context there, so FUCK YOU for trying to slander someone personally. You and I both know what was meant by that statement now quit trying to find reasons to shame someone else to make yourself feel cool. To sit there and say no one ever gives finatial aide to western countries is as silly as your "fuck you" statement. The US, Canada, U.K., and several other of the western nations constantly pump money into the other western countries for many reasons. Hell sometimes the reason is as simple as to help improve that countries market and net worth. Just because the money isn't tagged "Emergency Use Only" doesn't make it any less of a finantial aide. I seriously doubt a friggin penny came out of your pocket in either situation so seriously you should shut your hole...
You're right, Canada did absolutely nothing at all to help out the USA. Certainly hundreds of us didn't open up our very homes to American strangers after their flights were redirected into Canada. No no.
If you're talking about financial aid, well... nobody ever really gives financial aid to Western nations when they have a crisis like this, given that, you know, we're the richest part of the world. We can handle our own crises, financially. But tremendous aid and support of other kinds was given to the USA after 9/11 and fuck you for suggesting that it wasn't. It's not our fault your idiot president squandered the world's goodwill through is insane machinations.[/quote]
First off, the majorty of passengers that were redirected to Canada ended up sleeping in the airport. While some Canadians did allow Americans to stay in there house for a day or two I seriously doubt you were one of them. As for the "Fuck you" statement you took what was said way out of context there, so FUCK YOU for trying to slander someone personally. You and I both know what was meant by that statement now quit trying to find reasons to shame someone else to make yourself feel cool. To sit there and say no one ever gives finatial aide to western countries is as silly as your "fuck you" statement. The US, Canada, U.K., and several other of the western nations constantly pump money into the other western countries for many reasons. Hell sometimes the reason is as simple as to help improve that countries market and net worth. Just because the money isn't tagged "Emergency Use Only" doesn't make it any less of a finantial aide. I seriously doubt a friggin penny came out of your pocket in either situation so seriously you should shut your hole...
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