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new aids strain found

Post by elroy » Sun Feb 13, 2005 4:06 pm

New aids strain discovered in New York, it's apparently resistant to drugs and develops from HIV to full blown aids in a matter of days. NY daily news
How about that.. just when people think it's more or less safe, with all them drugs for treatment, something new pops up. And again it surfaces first among gay people. Now don't tell me that's coincidence..
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Post by YH » Sun Feb 13, 2005 4:18 pm

Before we go on a gay tangent here, the first thing I want to note is that the reason why this drug resistant HIV strain has developed, is because some people are silly enough to go through a drug treatment and not finish it entirely. CNN reported this story, and mentioned that the patient caught the disease from another person who "went on and off" with various HIV drug treatments.* Very bad thing to do.

This has been a common catalyst for the development of drug resistant diseases, directly due to human ignorance over drug treaments. It's precisely because people think it's safe, such that they miss out on their treatments, and provide an environment for drug resistance to occur. It's the same mentality as treating the common cold with antibiotics. Nothing to do with gays.

*: My bad, this was a seperate incident that happened a few years ago. Should have checked the date. I will however try to find out the real "cause" of this case.
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Post by Lunatic Jedi » Sun Feb 13, 2005 7:12 pm

AIDS has always been a notoriously clever pathogen. A new, resistant strain always seems to show up whenever somebody thinks they've come up with an effective treatment.
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Post by peter-griffin » Mon Feb 14, 2005 4:37 am

How about that.. just when people think it's more or less safe, with all them drugs for treatment, something new pops up. And again it surfaces first among gay people. Now don't tell me that's coincidence..
ok, it isn't coincidence.

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Post by bort » Mon Feb 14, 2005 2:34 pm

what the? who thought that hiv and/or aids were more or less safe? last i heard, there still is no cure, and all the drugs do is slow the virii down(and that's the better drugs).

damn... i guess hiv might have a good side too...

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Post by Fixer » Mon Feb 14, 2005 3:13 pm

Anyone who thought that AIDS was tamed or unprotected sex was safe obviously has more hope than brains.
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Post by elroy » Mon Feb 14, 2005 7:25 pm

If you'd know how many people have unprotected sex nowadays, it's a miracle infection rates aren't much higher.
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Post by Fixer » Mon Feb 14, 2005 7:29 pm

I expect infections rates ARE higher, but people just aren't admitting it, even to their sexual partners.
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Post by AdmiralKnight » Mon Feb 14, 2005 11:35 pm

Or don't even know, because they won't get tested.

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Post by JaktheSpider » Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:39 am

i still believe that aids was started by two guys who fucked and then passed it on to some bi who passed it on to a woman slut who fucked everyone in nyc

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Post by Spiritual » Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:37 pm

I believe it was started by the governments, as a way of easily taking over less fortunate countries.... Or a way of keeping the population from over populating.

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Post by Fixer » Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:51 pm

[quote="Spiritual";p="454652"]I believe it was started by the governments, as a way of easily taking over less fortunate countries.... Or a way of keeping the population from over populating.[/quote]
You are assuming that governments make decisions. They do not. People IN government make decisions and as those people could just as easily get infected as anyone else, I see this particular conspiracy theory as not being able to hold water.

It is far more likely that it was a virus that started out in a primate species and crossed over to humans, which is where most of our nastiest viruses come from these days. Now, this is not to say that the original primate disease was natural in origin, but I doubt there is conspiracy involved.
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Post by Spiritual » Wed Feb 16, 2005 1:19 pm

You are assuming that governments make decisions. They do not. People IN government make decisions and as those people could just as easily get infected as anyone else, I see this particular conspiracy theory as not being able to hold water.

Um yes your right. But it would be easy if you knew the disease was out there and what damage it could do, to avoid getting it to start with.

It is far more likely that it was a virus that started out in a primate species and crossed over to humans, which is where most of our nastiest viruses come from these days. Now, this is not to say that the original primate disease was natural in origin, but I doubt there is conspiracy involved.[/quote]

Yes I also believe that might of been the case also... Maybe though the "people" in the governments injected primates knowing full well what would eventually happen.
Or maybe they virus was dormant, but something environmentaly woke it up... :wink:

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Post by Mr.Shroom » Fri Feb 18, 2005 12:55 am

People, just to keep all of this into perspective?

The fellow in NY who has this strain has had unprotected sex en mass with over 100 people, some strangers and many at the same time, often while doing various hardcore drugs.

He's no Joe Average in terms of homosexual activites. I'm surprised he only has ONE new strain of STD, frankly.

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Post by naval_aviator_2040 » Fri Feb 18, 2005 2:34 am

[quote="Fixer";p="454657"]It is far more likely that it was a virus that started out in a primate species and crossed over to humans, which is where most of our nastiest viruses come from these days. Now, this is not to say that the original primate disease was natural in origin, but I doubt there is conspiracy involved.[/quote]

From what I've heard you're actually pretty dead-on with the primate thing. Apparently it started in African apes and when the local tribes ate the apes, as some do, the disease spreads to them.

As for why it is prevalent in the gay community i THINK, but have no proof, that it is because people assume that gay sex is "safer" and therefore there is less need of protection. Again just a guess, I could be wrong.
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