Loosing faith with humanity, and this time it hits home.

[Accer]

Thank goodness three of the kids are well enough to leave the hospital after all.

[Deacon]

[quote="KitsuneMusume";p="457728"]Loosing faith with humanity, and this time it hits home.[/quote]
Well, now that things have cooled off a little, perhaps I can suggest that maybe that was supposed to read "Loosing faith on humanity...."

[Twigz221]

I can never lose faith in humanity, no matter what happens. There are horrible things that happen every day, and there is no way of stopping it. But also, there are many good things that happen. People I believe are generally good. People want to help others if they can. So many good acts happen every day, but they simply go unnoticed. If 10 good things happen to you, and one bad thing happens to you, you're only going to remember the one bad. What happened was a terrible tragedy and things like that should never happen, but they are no reason to lose faith in humanity. Hate is powerful, but it can never overcome love.

[Kits]

Yeah, I was a little over emotional when I made this topic, but you guys didn't have to talk to a little sister who cried her eyes out for hours...My little sister is only 18...she shouldn't see shit like this...Noone should...

[BillyBlaze]

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and why exactly did your sister see them again?

[quote="KitsuneMusume";p="457728"]Man Kills Five Children, ages One through Seven

I don't see how anyone can DO this. I knew Shelby. She was in a childrens play with me a few years ago. She was only about 4 then, maybe still 3. This hurts my heart. I don't understand! If you're mad at your wife, why kill CHILDREN??? WHY???? My sister works at the ER and saw them come in. She saw the horrors that that man inflicted on the children, stuff they didn't put in the article. Little Clarence, the one year old, and his BIOLOGICAL SON, was stabbed through the cheek, and down into his neck. The two year old straight through then neck, then in his chest multiple times. Dawn says Shelby was stabbed in the chest. She didn't tell me about the others.

This...horrifies me. I know that most of you don't care about this, but this is the first time something like this has...hit so close to home. If you don't care, don't respond. If it should go somewhere else, PM a mod and don't shit up my thread. I didn't know if it should go in PaCE or in here.[/quote]

Just maybe, if she doesn't want to see these things, she should get a different job.

[Kits]

She's in school to be a nurse, and works there for work-crediits. Don't blame her for wanting to help people, darling. She's a lot braver than I am.

[BillyBlaze]

All I'm saying is that if she can't handle it, she shouldn't be there. Because these kinds of things are part of the job.

[Kits]

And people saying things like that, how 5 mutilated knifed up children is just part of the job, is what makes me loose that faith.

[coyote blue]

They may be part of the job, but sometimes when you want to do something wonderful such as that, you have to see the horrors. My uncle is a ER trauma headnurse and ER pediatric trauma headnurse (both require different schoolings and such). He hates to see the children and babies that come in through the ER. But he knows that what he is doing is saving their lives, most times. The feeling that one gets, and knowing that they are making a difference and helping... sometimes that can be greater then the pain of seeing the dark side. For seeing someone she knew, her sister has every right to feel greater sadness and pain. It doesn't mean that she should change her job. It isn't the fact of seeing the effects of what happened. But seeing that it is someone she knew (I am assuming?) it makes it a greater difficulty then seeing a stranger. Today on the news a woman was passed out in the front seat of her car, found with a meth pipe and lighter on her chest, her 1 month old baby was in the back seat crying, unrestrained (no car seat) while the father was shopping at Wal Mart. - side note, they didn't get in trouble for child endangerment or anything. The father supposidly lied to the police, and that is what they arrested him on. - There are people out there who do not deserve to have children. I can't imagine someone wanting to hurt one, let alone kill one of their own. When I see on the news and talk shows of nannies beating the babies I wish so much to do to the person what they had done to the baby, and then some. For the ones who hurt children, prison is too good for them. In my opinion.

[BillyBlaze]

[quote="KitsuneMusume";p="464093"]And people saying things like that, how 5 mutilated knifed up children is just part of the job, is what makes me loose that faith.[/quote]
That's the way things are. Whether or not anyone says it has no impact on the situation.

[Darkhan]

My two cents on this:
1) Martin, how do you know so much? You always seem to be the most rational mind in these odd situations. You're completely correct, by the way. If you want to hurt someone with children, and you've reached the point where you'd do anything to hurt that person, not even your own blood-tie will stop you. It's sad. There's no other way to see it, in my mind.
2) Billy, think about it. there's a difference between seeing people come into the ER and seeing people you know and care about come into the ER. The latter is obviously going to be worse. Give the girl some fucking slack
3) Don't hate me for this part, but he's still human. You can't say, "Oh, he did something bad, he's inhuman". Everyone's capable of things like this (not saying they will, just that they're capable of it), and no one thinks they'll ever do it until they actually do. He's a bad person, but he's still a person.
4) Hillbilly, the lynching you described disgusts me. He may very well have not been guilty. If we lynched everyone who could be the perpetrator (sp?) of a crime like that, a lot of innocent people would die. Just because 90% of the first suspects are the correct ones doesn't mean the other 10% don't deserve their fair chance to defend themselves.
5) Most importantly: Kit, I can't begin to imagine how you feel, I just can't. I'm so very sorry for you. I'd help if I could in any way I could, but unless you're in SoCal (Orange County), there's nothing I can do. Do try to understand that there are good people in this world, people that would never harm anyone. Please remember that even though you hear about things like this on the news a lot, the things you don't hear about are when one person helps another, because this sin't considered news-worthy. There are good people in the world, more than you know. I have a story that might lift your views of humanity at least a little, but I'll have to PM it to you.

[billf]

Darkhan, see MB's custom title? I gave him that almost 3 years ago for a reason.

[elroy]

q: why is it when someone does something horrible someone always pops up and classifies these people as 'not human' ?
a?: are they so scared of the dark side of humanity that they'd rather fool themself than acknowledge it ?

[Twigz221]

People acknowledge the darkside of humanity. I see more people refusing to acknowledge the light side of it.

[daemon princess]

[quote="elroy";p="464372"]q: why is it when someone does something horrible someone always pops up and classifies these people as 'not human' ?
a?: are they so scared of the dark side of humanity that they'd rather fool themself than acknowledge it ?[/quote]I think it's just the use of a more spiritual definition of "human" than a scientific one.