Sucicide - A Sin?

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Post by Phoenix Talon » Thu Mar 31, 2005 5:06 pm

[quote="peter-griffin";p="473181"]Some think suicide is the only way to escape dishonor, some think it is an act of humiliation and the ultimate sin. Choose your flavor.[/quote]

In my Sociology class we learned that there were different types of suicide. THe Japanese practised "Revenge Suicide" where their suicide was prompted by a dishonouring, and the person who did the dishonouring was then blamed for their death. The Inuit would go out in the harsh weather to die once they could not help support the family, and thereby give the family more food since there would be less people to feed.

And, as you said, some think of it as the ultimate sin. All based on your perspective. As I said earlier, I think of it as a waste of potential.
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Post by G.C.1129 » Thu Mar 31, 2005 5:07 pm

umm... you know what just forget it!

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Post by Phoenix Talon » Thu Mar 31, 2005 5:08 pm

[quote="G.C.1129";p="473193"]hitler killed himself to escape dishonor[/quote]

Hitler did NOT kill himself to escape dishonor. He KILLED himself because he lost the war, and he was going to be put on trial for war crimes, and probably have something worse done to him if he had not killed himself.
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Post by G.C.1129 » Thu Mar 31, 2005 5:10 pm

I SAID FORGET IT!!!!! :x

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Post by Phoenix Talon » Thu Mar 31, 2005 5:14 pm

Chill, kiddo. Look at the posting times. They are close enough for me to NOT have seen it. I honestly didn't see your post until AFTER I posted my reply. You're more likely to get flamed if you over react like that.
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Post by G.C.1129 » Thu Mar 31, 2005 5:15 pm

i know... i just got my facts wrong. sorry :oops:

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Post by StruckingFuggle » Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:56 pm

[quote="Blaze";p="473120"]I suppose, as with anything, the law is not as cut and dried as it might seem. Sometimes there are definitely extenuating circumstances. But then, if somebody killed themselves to prevent the spread of disease, or sensitive information that could hurt others, would you really call it a suicide?[/quote]

Yes. I would.
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Post by G.C.1129 » Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:10 pm

yeah

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Post by peter-griffin » Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:25 pm

[quote="Phoenix Talon";p="473198"][quote="G.C.1129";p="473193"]hitler killed himself to escape dishonor[/quote]

Hitler did NOT kill himself to escape dishonor. He KILLED himself because he lost the war, and he was going to be put on trial for war crimes, and probably have something worse done to him if he had not killed himself.[/quote]

uh, i think you're an idiot.

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Post by Deacon » Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:36 pm

[quote="RadicalDreamer";p="472679"]according to the Catholic Church, lie is God's gift to you[/quote]
Freud would have a field day with you.
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Post by SunTzu » Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:59 pm

Good thing noone reads Freud anymore ;)
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Post by RadicalDreamer » Thu Mar 31, 2005 9:47 pm

[quote="Deacon";p="473346"][quote="RadicalDreamer";p="472679"]according to the Catholic Church, lie is God's gift to you[/quote]
Freud would have a field day with you.[/quote]

Whoops.

Heh, when I first read that, I though "All right, now who does this dickweed think he is?" :P

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Post by BigToe12341 » Mon Jun 27, 2005 3:41 pm

God says suicide is a sin, it is a sin. You can't repent for shooting yourself in the head, you're dead before you have a chance. Whether you're atheist, jewish, catholic, buddhist, islamic, methodist, lutheran, wiccan, satanist, presbytarian or anything else, death is bad. No one likes death, and deep down it is something we are all afaraid of. No one should ever have to die, but they do. i think it's selfish to make one more person die just because you're depressed. But that's just my opinion, and if you believe something entirely different, I'd like to hear it, because more than anything I like to learn.
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Post by AzraeL » Mon Jun 27, 2005 6:23 pm

Suicide is a sin, and yet self sacrifice is extremely virtuous...
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Post by Bigity » Mon Jun 27, 2005 6:36 pm

Which makes sense, as they are completely different.
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