The Star Wars conspiracy theory

[Blaze]

I never said it was perfect. But I don't think it's as grubbing as people make it out to be. Certianly, some of it is, but a lot of it is just mismanagement.

[StruckingFuggle]

And what causes that "mismanagment", if not people's petty desires to be comfortable and/or powerful?

[Gowerlypuff]

[quote="Blaze";p="497558"]You never considered that maybe they just want to serve the public?[/quote]

Then they don't want power, they want to serve the public.

Politicians and CEOs give themselvse huge raises when all around them is going to pot. They bail out when things are going bad and never EVER admit that they've done wrong. All they will do is blame someone else.

When was the last time you saw a politician go "Oops, yeah, I made a mistake there"?

[Deacon]

[quote="Nitz Walsh";p="497563"]Emperor Bush is going to take over the world.[/quote]
Wait a second. I thought you people were constantly going on about how stupid and bumbling and idiotic and generally everything dumb "Dubya" is. Which one is it? Is he that inept and idiotic? Or is he capable turning America into an empire?

[quote="StruckingFuggle";p="497917"]And what causes that "mismanagment", if not people's petty desires to be comfortable and/or powerful?[/quote]
People's general status of not being well-informed and therefore often electing piss-poor managers.

[Blaze]

People's general status of not being well-informed and therefore often electing piss-poor managers.

A-yeap. Also, managing a country is sure as HECK going to be one involving job.

Politicians and CEOs give themselvse huge raises when all around them is going to pot. They bail out when things are going bad and never EVER admit that they've done wrong. All they will do is blame someone else.

When was the last time you saw a politician go "Oops, yeah, I made a mistake there"?

The president hasn't had a raise in years. And there's a difference between wanting power, and just not wanting to be an embarassment.

[Martin Blank]

The last raise for the president was in 2000, when the salary increased from $200,000 per year (which took effect in 1969) to $400,000 per year.

He's also allowed $50,000 in non-taxable expenses related to performance of his duties as president, and has been since 1949.

[StruckingFuggle]

A question, Blaze.

Given the chance between doing great good for a great number of people with an act that's career suicide, or a life of bland incumbentcy, how many politicans out of 100 would take the former?

[Martin Blank]

You can do things for the people that are not suicide. Just check with John McCain. Not only has he bucked the party leadership, he ran for president and lost and gained power and prestige. Just look at how both parties were fighting over him last year. He has continued to do what he thinks is right, even when it has meant a figurative bird flipped at the Republican leadership in the House, Senate, White House, and party elite.

[StruckingFuggle]

I didn't mean it to be an either/or.

Posted Fri May 20, 2005 1:55 am:

You know, Blaze, I find your avatar here vaugely amusing ...

[CyberEd]

the best sci-fi stories are based on historical stories. Dune was based on the middle east, for example (the harkonnen being russian, the atreides British, the fremen arabs...)
heck, there's nothing new under the sun. historical stories resemble older historical stories...

[Rorschach]

I thought it was interesting how the Emperor used the other systems' seats as weapons

[Blaze]

methinks that might be reading just a BIT much into things...

But that's deep, Rors! I hadn't even considered that!

[Rorschach]

You can blame that on me being an Eng Lit student, I have to claim the most preposterous things to fill 3,000 words

[Beware of the Leopard]

[quote="Herr Doktor!";p="497596"][quote="Beware of the Leopard";p="497422"]1) Palpatine's rise to power with the clone war parallels the war in Iraq.
-One could make this connection, but one could also say that every Star Wars fan has known the overall story of these three movies since we first saw the original movies. Lucas wrote the shell outline while preparing for the original 3. It parallels Germany, it parallels Rome, but I'm sorry, recent events came after the fact.[/quote]

Indeed they did. But doesn't the fact that idiots are pointing out similarities between recent actions this administration has undertook and the Star Wars Universe which is inspired -as you say- from several historical elements (namely the rise of Hitler to power) point to an interesting relation between the historical elements mentioned and this administration?[/quote]

Sure, things can be compared to history. I have no problem with people saying the events seem like the movie (though, they do have better, less trivial options for comparisons, right or wrong). However, my point is that people are saying that Lucas (who I'm assuming is liberal from a quote of his) intentionally made the movie as a comentary on this administration. The problem being that the general plot to this movie has existed since the 70's. There are people who are boycotting it for this reason.

My point is, you don't say Rome was like Star Wars, you say Star Wars was like Rome. You can at this point decide whether it was not this is a valid statement, but you can not say, from this statement, that Caesar was a Star Wars fanatic.

Unless Lucas is Nostradamus, there shouldn't be a problem.

If you are going to boycott Star Wars, do it because the last two sucked.

(In defence of my assertion that Palpatine was intentionally drawn from Hitler, he rose from Chancellor to Emperor, Hitler was facinated by the occult, there is a theme of racism (specism?) in the literature and very very slightly in the movie. As for Rome... republic, senate, Emperor uses military power to obtain dictatorship... blah blah blah.)

[mikehendo]

[quote="Fixer";p="497681"]Any supremely charming and charismatic individual, with sufficient resources, can make even a perfect democracy into a dictatorship.[/quote]
in more countries wher ea dictator has come into power, there hasnt been a perfect democracy, most especially in Germany..