The Star Wars conspiracy theory

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Post by Metzgirl » Wed May 25, 2005 5:06 am

I think I shall write a new sci-fi with correct physics and all kinds of conspiracy theoreies. Only I'll actually say straight out "This is the conspiracy in my movie". Then I shall watch as the conspiracy theorists spin my conspiracy!

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Post by Blaze » Wed May 25, 2005 5:12 am

It wouldn't be the first time.
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Post by Metzgirl » Wed May 25, 2005 5:19 am

But has it been done within the realm of possible physics?

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Re: The Star Wars conspiracy theory

Post by Phong » Wed May 25, 2005 5:41 pm

Parallels are too easy to draw.

For instance, I've always felt that the Rebellion against the Empire was similiar in its conduct, to the American Revolution.

Small forces, moving constantly, eventually tire out the larger, better trained, better equiped force. The way the smugglers, and farm boys, and big city politicians are brought together by a common cause, to fight for their freedom. That doesn't mean it's what Lucas intended.

I, like Rors have come up with the most absurd parallels in the history of English classes.

I wrote a 10 page paper on "The Battle of Maldon" as an allegory for British world supremacy, and a 5 page paper on the prevalence of naval jargon in the english language in connection to the importance of the Navy to the safety, security and expansion of the British Empire.
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Re: The Star Wars conspiracy theory

Post by Ruu » Wed May 25, 2005 6:17 pm

[quote="Nekra";p="497578"]weighing over 20 stone doesn't mean your fat it just means your big boned.[/quote]

How much is a stone?

That's all I wanted to know out of this entire thread.
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Post by Metzgirl » Wed May 25, 2005 9:31 pm

one stone equals 14 lbs

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Post by Deacon » Wed May 25, 2005 9:46 pm

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Post by Euthanatos » Wed May 25, 2005 9:54 pm

Actually, the evolution of the Empire always struck me as an ignorant man's take on the decline and fall of Rome. Only, instead of wise Octavion, we have devious Palpatine. Then, Episode 1, 2, 3, bring about the idea of the Droid Army, and since both it and the Clone army are under the control of Palpatine, it's not a civil war like the one that ushered in Augustus.
Episode 3 at least redeemed the series, and presented a plausible exchange of power ala Rome, but I'll never recover from the psychic scars of 1 &2.
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Post by document » Wed May 25, 2005 10:48 pm

You know, I think I'm the only person in the world who prefered the old style of saberfighting to the wire-fu jedimonkey stuff of the prequels...
I actually agree with you. My favorite light-saber fight out of the six movies is Empire Strikes Back with Return of the Jedi at a close second. I just love the environment that they fight in in ESB as well as Luke's fighting style. The enraged luke in RotJ with the choirs in the background where he overpowers Darth Vader through his anger.

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Post by Makh » Thu May 26, 2005 3:11 am

I have not seen the episode III but I can see some vague parallels in the others. Some of them are distinct. For example, Lucas inspired on German army for his empire soldiers. The uniform of the officers in Episode 4, 5 and 6. The helm of Darth Vader is close to the german sturmgrenadier helmet (not the mask, the helm).

Many details are really weird in Lucas's conception of politics. An elected... queen. :| Why an advanced society would "elect" a queen? (Episode I) You elect someone and you give him/her the title of King/Queen? It is strange. Also, the Queen (Amidala) is very VERY young to rule. She does not have experience or the proper education to take the good decisions. She does not have the iron grip required to deal with those pitiful alien and their commercial blocus. A 14 years old girls is not wise enough to rule a PLANET! Kwi Gon Jin says he defends democracy but the power in the Naboo system is held by ONE person!

Since when a chancellor preside a senate? The Chancellor is not only a chairman, he is also in charge of the republic! And how can a 14 years old queen dismiss a senate chairman? I thought the Chancellor was democratically elected by the people of the republic. All this politic is fucked up. I do not underatand why all those monarchic appellations like Queen/King or Chancellor are not defunct yet in an advanced society! Sorry for the rant, it is Lucas's universe after all. :)

I must leave, so I will not start on the anti Soviet propaganda of episode 4, 5 and 6 for now. :wink:

[quote="Phong";p="500208"]I wrote a 10 page paper on "The Battle of Maldon" as an allegory for British world supremacy[/quote]
British world supremacy? When? Did I miss this history class?

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Post by YH » Thu May 26, 2005 4:17 am

Now that you've mentioned it, I'm confused about Queen Amidala as well. Originally I had thought that she was merely a "mascot" of the planet.... you know, for diplomatic relations, or public relations with the people. But the way she acts for "her people" in the movie...... odd indeed....
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Post by StruckingFuggle » Thu May 26, 2005 5:01 am

I always thought the "senate" was composed of the heads of all the various planets, however they may come into power ...
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Post by Arc Orion » Thu May 26, 2005 5:33 am

Amidala is the democratically elected queen of Naboo. Apparently, the people of Naboo are pretty foolish, as they voted for an extremely young (and naive, unqualified, incompitent, etc.) leader. The Republic senate seems to be composed primarily of diplomats from various planets and political bodies, acting as senators for their respective planets and bodies. Amidala doesn't dismiss the chancellor, but calls for a vote to have him dismissed. Presumably, a certain percentage of the senate voted that he be dismissed, and a new chancellor replace him.

Whether or not a society this advanced would have need for such a government, I can't really comment on. However, the concepts of democracies and republics have been around for thousands of years on Earth, so it's possible that they still might be in use in an advanced, space-borne society. Of course, I have other issues with the Star Wars universe, such as why that daily life seems to remain very much the same for thousands of years before any major changes occur.
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Post by kaiju01 » Thu May 26, 2005 6:04 am

See, I thought that Amidala was technically a senator beyond Episode I. Was that not a new queen in Episode II when Amidala returns to Naboo with Anakin? She had white and black face paint iirc. I assumed she made the political transition.
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Post by Arc Orion » Thu May 26, 2005 6:40 am

Yeah, in Episode II, she became the senator for Naboo, because the people of Naboo wanted her to have another term as queen, but she didn't want to have another term, as well as that it was illegal for her to have another term as queen, anyway. So she became senator for Naboo, which, if I remember correctly, was an office appointed to her by the queen who took her place.
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