AMD or INTEL?

frenchy-mouse · Post by **frenchy-mouse** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 9:01 am

What do you think? AMD or INTEL? Why?
I prefer AMD for two reasons: it's more cheaper than intel, and the last version had convainced me. (AMD 64 ....+)

MasteR · Post by **MasteR** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:27 pm

AMD. Fight the power.

billf · Post by **billf** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:39 pm

IBM!

FireAza · Post by **FireAza** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:43 pm

If you've got lots of money, Intel, if you don't AMD, it's as simple as that. And don't listen to billf, he doesn't wear pants.

PhoenixGeek · Post by **PhoenixGeek** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:55 pm

Any system that I build has AMD unless I get an extremely good deal on an Intel package. AMD has the performance and price advantage as far as I'm concerned.

DarkWolfe · Post by **DarkWolfe** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 4:15 pm

[quote="FireAza";p="518976"]If you've got lots of money, Intel, if you don't AMD, it's as simple as that. And don't listen to billf, he doesn't wear pants.[/quote]

^ Pretty much my opinion.

Phong · Post by **Phong** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 4:29 pm

I think the arguement is really one of Stability vs. Speed.

AMD has raw speed to it's advantage, whereas Intel has always been a wee bit slower, but also always been much more stable. I run my everyday, home/gaming machine on AMD, but for work where stability, and reliabilty are absolutely neccesary, I will always choose Intel.

Teranfirbt · Post by **Teranfirbt** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:09 pm

Uhhhmm
I don't know what chips you're using, but both my old Athlon 600 and my new A64 have up-time records going on 3 weeks...
As for Intel, well, look at their pricing... If you want to pay $50 more for a chip that's equal or slower than an A64 3000+, be my guest...

MasteR · Post by **MasteR** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:14 pm

Stability an issue with AMD? Not with any chip I ever used. What are you using that gives you bad stablility with AMD?

In fact both my Athlons were overclock substansially and would still get uptimes of weeks or months.

TopCat · Post by **TopCat** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:28 pm

[quote="MasteR";p="518973"]AMD. Fight the power.[/quote]

pc486 · Post by **pc486** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 6:09 pm

AMD because I like AMD's Opterons with a side entry for the VIA C7. Intel for network processors like the IXP2850.

Deacon · Post by **Deacon** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 7:17 pm

I've been running my AthlonXP (Barton) 2500+ at 3200+ for...over a year at least, IIRC.

Vektor T. Gecko · Post by **Vektor T. Gecko** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:01 pm

I think the stability mindset is a holdover from the pre-athlon days when AMD really was a significantly lower quality, low price alternative.

K6 series MY ASS.

I think the biggest reason why you see Intel machines dominating the business market is because Intel has an unbreakable stranglehold on all of the OEM vendors. Small businesses can probably afford to manage their handful of machines on their own, but as soon as you start dealing with lotz(tm) of computators, it's much smarter to buy from an OEM vendor whom will provide support for the machines they sell, whether they be server products or desktops. Because otherwise, the guy in IT who issued the buy order is the fall guy if the computers blow up. No support policy means he would either need to fix them himself, or field a technical team at each location (or at least a mobile tech team in each region). He chooses to fix them himself and half the server room goes up in smoke at the same time that the PCs on the opposite coast all start flashing bright red skulls saying "H4xX0r3D!", he's in trouble. Additionally, the cost of fielding their own tech teams for general maintenence is probably greater than the savings you'd make over going with an OEM vendor and their support policy.

In most cases (again, things like small business aside), the smart business decision is almost always the OEM vendor. And what do OEM vendors sell exclusively? Intel chips!

billf · Post by **billf** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:50 pm

Intel does have many "youz mah bitch" contracts with OEM vendors.

The most recent AMD lawsuit against Intel has to do with Intel forcing OEMs not to support non-intel processors. They give "deals" to those who buy Intel chips exclusively, where more likely they are just overcharging people who do use AMD chips.

Teranfirbt · Post by **Teranfirbt** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:56 pm

Billf: As much as Intel's practices piss me off, it's the fact that AMD *can't supply* OEM's with enough CPU's for them to give Intel the finger and switch..

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