1) That was a direct quote, thus you didn't say "some" before it. The fact that you are only willing to help women is sexist anyway.
2) I haven't used ftp since 9th grade on a crapier system that required a lot more that drag and drop and was attempting to apply that to a system that was drag and drop, thus I was actually over-complicating the situation.
3) When I was having those problems, I had only worked with the program for about 30 mins (including downloads).
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First of all, sorry for the Necro, but I had to leave for the week-end.
[quote="Brian";p="86188"]1) Security concerns - the only script I would trust is the one I wrote myself, and even then I'm still really wary of upload scripts.[/quote]
I think I demonstrated the security problems you might encounter pretty well, but if you restrict the uploader to .jpg and .gif, for instance, you won't run into any problem.
The point is to always check the user input. In the case of an uploader, it needs to reject everything but some specified type of files.
[quote="Brian";p="86188"]2) Ownership issues - using an upload script doesn't allow me to change ownership, and as such, people can delete other people's images (much like TopCat did there). By enforcing use of FTP, people have ownership of their files, and even I can't delete them directly (I can delete them if I really need to, but I have to go through a bit extra to do it, as I'm not directly root on the machine)[/quote]
Well, actually, you can find a workarround for that, and you can imagine a lot of them. None of them is easy, but it is do-able to make the script set the correct permissions and owner ship on an uploaded image.
[quote="Brian";p="86188"]3) Intelligence issues - it seems that most of the people (and it's over 70 now) who have received the hosting have figured out how to upload stuff, using some sort of client. There are tutorials out there (Google "ftp tutorial") that can help, and I'm trying to write something up that makes sense, but so far it hasn't been needed too much. This thread has some great info in it.[/quote]
Thats a good reason. I hate to spoonfeed people.
[quote="Brian";p="86188"]So, I probably won't ever put an auto-uploader up. At least, not for the masses. If you want to put a personal one up, fine, but if something happens through it that hoses things, your account dies first strike.
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The problem here is that it might damage all of the website if someone uploads a script with holes, like TopCat (I pretty much demonstrated that I could of have done anything I wanted to his website).
Basically, if someone can exploit an errorneous script on your server, he will end up with the same access ass the user the HTTP server (Apache most likely) run as. Basically, he can probably shutdown the whole serveur and possibly modify the configuration, depending on your server's exact setup.
If you want to avoid that, you need to use some restrictions with PHP, like by not allowing people to make system calls, for an example.
[quote="Brian";p="86188"]1) Security concerns - the only script I would trust is the one I wrote myself, and even then I'm still really wary of upload scripts.[/quote]
I think I demonstrated the security problems you might encounter pretty well, but if you restrict the uploader to .jpg and .gif, for instance, you won't run into any problem.
The point is to always check the user input. In the case of an uploader, it needs to reject everything but some specified type of files.
[quote="Brian";p="86188"]2) Ownership issues - using an upload script doesn't allow me to change ownership, and as such, people can delete other people's images (much like TopCat did there). By enforcing use of FTP, people have ownership of their files, and even I can't delete them directly (I can delete them if I really need to, but I have to go through a bit extra to do it, as I'm not directly root on the machine)[/quote]
Well, actually, you can find a workarround for that, and you can imagine a lot of them. None of them is easy, but it is do-able to make the script set the correct permissions and owner ship on an uploaded image.
[quote="Brian";p="86188"]3) Intelligence issues - it seems that most of the people (and it's over 70 now) who have received the hosting have figured out how to upload stuff, using some sort of client. There are tutorials out there (Google "ftp tutorial") that can help, and I'm trying to write something up that makes sense, but so far it hasn't been needed too much. This thread has some great info in it.[/quote]
Thats a good reason. I hate to spoonfeed people.
[quote="Brian";p="86188"]So, I probably won't ever put an auto-uploader up. At least, not for the masses. If you want to put a personal one up, fine, but if something happens through it that hoses things, your account dies first strike.
[/quote]The problem here is that it might damage all of the website if someone uploads a script with holes, like TopCat (I pretty much demonstrated that I could of have done anything I wanted to his website).
Basically, if someone can exploit an errorneous script on your server, he will end up with the same access ass the user the HTTP server (Apache most likely) run as. Basically, he can probably shutdown the whole serveur and possibly modify the configuration, depending on your server's exact setup.
If you want to avoid that, you need to use some restrictions with PHP, like by not allowing people to make system calls, for an example.
now, i was looking at your demonstrations, and you could only do .. to go up a dir. I'm quite sure you cant refresh and it'd go up another dir, and I dont know if ../.. is possible.
And I hope to start my second project, RLGallery, very soon, as I have a free day tomorrow and will get everything up.
Basically, a "Gah! Stop Looking at Me!" without the spam. And its easier to browse, as the search function is NOT assisting me in finding the images that Gaias spirit has said she's got in there in the '100s'. I use a 30postperpage system so that would be pages 50-55.
Also, Brian, my image problem HAS been resolved, it appears i once rightclicked an image from RLH and clicked block images from server.
On that note, you know what goatse is, BLOCK IT so just in case anything ever happens, you wont see it. I'm planning on doing that right now.
Yay/Nay mozilla!
And I hope to start my second project, RLGallery, very soon, as I have a free day tomorrow and will get everything up.
Basically, a "Gah! Stop Looking at Me!" without the spam. And its easier to browse, as the search function is NOT assisting me in finding the images that Gaias spirit has said she's got in there in the '100s'. I use a 30postperpage system so that would be pages 50-55.
Also, Brian, my image problem HAS been resolved, it appears i once rightclicked an image from RLH and clicked block images from server.
On that note, you know what goatse is, BLOCK IT so just in case anything ever happens, you wont see it. I'm planning on doing that right now.
Yay/Nay mozilla!
hahaha i don't come to these forums anymore 
[quote="DJ TopCat";p="89882"]now, i was looking at your demonstrations, and you could only do .. to go up a dir. I'm quite sure you cant refresh and it'd go up another dir, and I dont know if ../.. is possible.[/quote]
I could do basically anything, from browsing ALL of your account's content to modifying it just like I want to.
I could do basically anything, from browsing ALL of your account's content to modifying it just like I want to.
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Sorry all - if you've requested space in the past week or so, due to some extreme life circumstances I've been unable to reply. Hopefully tomorrow will be the day to go through and create all of the pending accounts (I have six messages right now, probably will get another one or two by then).
So, my apologies again, and thanks for understanding.
So, my apologies again, and thanks for understanding.
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Aaaannd... THE FTP IS NOT WORKING FOR MEH!
Of course, I have little to know idea what I'm doing. I've never gotten my FTP to successfully upload something. I can't connect. Whatever I'm doing wrong, TELL ME.
Of course, I have little to know idea what I'm doing. I've never gotten my FTP to successfully upload something. I can't connect. Whatever I'm doing wrong, TELL ME.
People are like slinkies. Ultimately useless, but you just can't help but laugh when you see one tumble down the stairs.
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I'm going to assume that you have already signed up for everything and have your username and password. This has been explained in detail many times, but allow me to do so again.
1. open up ftp://ftp.reallifehosting.com/ in IE, or your browser of choice, I use IE most of the time, so we'll go with that.
2. Type in your username and password when it prompts you. It is case sensitive, so be careful. (example username: Jezebel, password: lebezeJ)
3. Once you do that, you'll see something similar to this:
but it would be a full window of course.
4. Open up whatever folder you have your pictures stored in on your computer. Click on the picture you want to upload, hold down your left mouse button, and a little plus sign will come up next to your cursor, and drag the picture from your folder to the ftp. Like this:
5. Now your picture it uploaded. Keep in mind that it is case sensitive. Picture.JPG will not work if you type in picture.jpg or Picture.jpg. The address to view your pictures will be http://www.reallifehosting.com/~YourNam ... icture.JPG
I hope that helped you a little bit.
1. open up ftp://ftp.reallifehosting.com/ in IE, or your browser of choice, I use IE most of the time, so we'll go with that.
2. Type in your username and password when it prompts you. It is case sensitive, so be careful. (example username: Jezebel, password: lebezeJ)
3. Once you do that, you'll see something similar to this:
but it would be a full window of course.
4. Open up whatever folder you have your pictures stored in on your computer. Click on the picture you want to upload, hold down your left mouse button, and a little plus sign will come up next to your cursor, and drag the picture from your folder to the ftp. Like this:
5. Now your picture it uploaded. Keep in mind that it is case sensitive. Picture.JPG will not work if you type in picture.jpg or Picture.jpg. The address to view your pictures will be http://www.reallifehosting.com/~YourNam ... icture.JPG
I hope that helped you a little bit.
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*Gasp*
I UNDERSTAND NOW!
I was using an FTP program on my own computer. Damn thing's way too complicated.
I UNDERSTAND NOW!
I was using an FTP program on my own computer. Damn thing's way too complicated.
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DAMNIT! IT STILL DOESN'T WORK! It says it can't log in with my name and password, and I DID make sure of the cases and such.
ERGH! I WANT TO KILL IT!
ERGH! I WANT TO KILL IT!
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