Conundrum

[chapium]

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Discuss

[kaiju01]

I've been pondering something similar lately.

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Do you think we're retarded?

Discuss.

[billf]

considering that is a rectangle and not a three dimensional box, I'd have to agree.

[Deacon]

Are you saying that's an inappropriate use of the word "box"?

[Dr. Tower]

A more interesting question would be:

Suppose you were to perform an autopsy for a centaur. The creature has, in a sense, two torsos. Where would you expect each of its internal organs to be, or would you expect redundancy?

[workmad3]

for the first, here is a nice discussion from wikipedia

secondly, i dont consider everyone here to be retarded

thirdly, a centaur, although it has 2 sections to its torso would, if it existed, be more of a 2 section single torso(in my opinion anyway). I would expect organs to be roughly distributed in the same way as most mammals, just with a 90 degree bend about halfway. I would not expect redundancy except to the extent that some(or most, not exactly a biologist) mammals have redundancy(two lungs, two kidneys etc). Unless of course, it was created by some weird mad scientist who chopped the head off a horse and stuck the upper body of a human there, in which case I would expect redundancy, along with organ layouts of both a horse and a human

[Deacon]

This (the liar paradox) is a perfect example of why so much of philosophy is such an incredible waste of time. The fact that people would ruminate on it makes me wonder why nobody has kicked these people in the head.

[Blaze]

[quote="Deacon";p="560506"]This (the liar paradox) is a perfect example of why so much of philosophy is such an incredible waste of time. The fact that people would ruminate on it makes me wonder why nobody has kicked these people in the head.[/quote]

Indeed. It's a paradox. There's no answer for it. Why does it need to be questioned any further. It's not like we're analyzing the character of the person who said it, in which case it MIGHT lead somewhere.

[Deacon]

It's a stupid paradox.

[kaiju01]

For the record, my bitter response had everything to do with discussing the liar paradox and nothing to do with the definition of box. It was also fueled by a claim that race is purely a social construct.

The "I'm not a liar" debate is a grade school joke, and it should stop there.

[Deacon]

[quote="kaiju01";p="560325"]I've been pondering something similar lately.

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Do you think we're retarded?

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What exactly is that code for?

[Mac3]

That, my friends, is the question of the hour.

[Seraphim]

Oh man... did you hear how he phrased that esoteric, evasive, bullshit?

We're obviously in the virtual presence of some kind of wise man, or guru.

[Martin Blank]

I have to side with Deacon here, though in a softer way. A lot of "philosophical" questions aren't. I don't see discussions of Sartre or Cicero or Aristotle here. Pondering a witty line is rarely philosophy.

[workmad3]

On a different note, has anyone here read the book 'On bullshit'? I think its not only amusing, being a serious philosophical discussion on the subject of bullshit, but also a good example of what things are like when philosophy is applied in strange areas.