advice-getting and keeping a girlfriend

SunTzu · Post by **SunTzu** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:39 pm

On the topic of free dinners: Why do guys still pay for dates? Its not done much here in sweden, and im wondering why you still have that tradition? I cant understand how women can demand equal pay as the men, but then require them to pay for THEIR food and drinks

HTRN · Post by **HTRN** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:45 pm

[quote="SunTzu";p="617180"]On the topic of free dinners: Why do guys still pay for dates? Its not done much here in sweden, and im wondering why you still have that tradition? I cant understand how women can demand equal pay as the men, but then require them to pay for THEIR food and drinks

[/quote]

Dinner whore

Sadly, this all too common.

HTRN

StruckingFuggle · Post by **StruckingFuggle** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:45 pm

Because we've been trained by years and years of the civil rights and feminist movements to engage in a constant doublethink about minorities and women (who're, actually, the majority, and thankfully don't realize that they can institute vaginal / uterial tyranny with a little bit of solidarity...) that "treating them equally" and "giving them special treatment" is, gasp, not actually a contradiction.

HTRN · Post by **HTRN** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:48 pm

Why do wimmin do this? Because they're evil, that's why.

HTRN

Euthanatos · Post by **Euthanatos** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:53 pm

It's a shame I missed this when it was actually talking about getting and keeping side of this whole thing.
spurned, if you need some advice, let me know, I'm a big fan of girlfriends.

Post by **Lizzegirle** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:35 pm

I think whoever does the asking out should be the one who pays for it. If the man asks out, its like saying, "Can I treat you to something?". If the woman does the asking, she should pay. Plain and simple. You can't ask someone out and assume that they are going to pay for you!

If it was a mutual thing, then split the bill!

Kyros · Post by **Kyros** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:57 pm

What about asking for prom date advice? I can ask people out no problem but asking someone to Prom is like....asking them on a date 2 months in advance.

naturesrevolt · Post by **naturesrevolt** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:11 pm

Liz has a good ideal, it's shared by many, but in places like Sweeden it's different, on the more fair level based "you pay for what you ordered". Personally, I don't care too much unless it's a really expensive place. Though I rarely go out to a resturaunt to eat a meal. Home is usually better, anyway. I don't decline an offer to split the bill, but other then that, I'd usually be the one paying.

Jezebel · Post by **Jezebel** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:28 am

Some people do call me Jezebel in real life Rorsy, and with the exception of those I work with pretty much everyone calls me Jez or Jezzy. I agree with Liz on the whole the person that asks is the one that pays. I certainly don't mind footing the bills sometimes.

Rorschach · Post by **Rorschach** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 9:09 am

[quote="Jezebel";p="617259"]Some people do call me Jezebel in real life Rorsy.[/quote]
I knew this. And it doesn't surprise me in the least, even if your first name were different

The introductory repast should be secured by the gentleman.
Thereafter, should the lady wish to invest some of her father's fortune in appropriating further entertainments, it would be imprudent of the gentleman not to aquiesce

The lady walks on the inside of the pavement (or 'sidewalk' if you will) with the gent on the outside lest a coach-and-four should run through a puddle, befouling her bustle

And that, my friends, is how to marry meet to your station

Post by **Lizzegirle** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 9:36 am

You talk funny.

Wite_Rabit · Post by **Wite_Rabit** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 10:09 am

blah blah blah. if you want to be treated as a single boy, fucking act like one. if your desire is to get a girl in the sack, treat her like a sexual object, not someone you care about in the long-term as a friend.

not to be overly crass. but really.

You meet a girl. You talk to girl for a bit, she gives you her number. Don't leap on it, call her a few days later, when you remember. Ultimately, if you get someone's phone number and want to call that person immediately within the first dozen hours (and she doesn't call YOU), drop it. I only say that because love at first sight DOES sometimes happen, and its a two-way street. Otherwise you just get creepy.

and yes, i know that from experience.

Treat her like a potential date, rather than a potential friend. Girls love being treated like a friend first, yadda yadda. That, though, is that whole long-term lovers-in-the-end game. if a girl wants to date RIGHT NOW, you'll know it. stop getting sore over girls who all want either end-game, or no-game.

How many women IS this, anyways? five, six? ten? Or, several dozen? What sort of cross-section are you basing this claim on? also, you're EIGHTEEN. Live a little.

HTRN · Post by **HTRN** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 12:44 pm

[quote="Lizzegirle";p="617320"]You talk funny.[/quote]

Sadly, I understood everything he said.

I guess I AM getting older.

HTRN

AzraeL · Post by **AzraeL** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:40 pm

[quote="Rorschach";p="617317"][quote="Jezebel";p="617259"]Some people do call me Jezebel in real life Rorsy.[/quote]
I knew this. And it doesn't surprise me in the least, even if your first name were different

The introductory repast should be secured by the gentleman.
Thereafter, should the lady wish to invest some of her father's fortune in appropriating further entertainments, it would be imprudent of the gentleman not to aquiesce

The lady walks on the inside of the pavement (or 'sidewalk' if you will) with the gent on the outside lest a coach-and-four should run through a puddle, befouling her bustle

And that, my friends, is how to marry meet to your station[/quote]

That should be accompanied by a black and white film.

Euthanatos · Post by **Euthanatos** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:38 pm

[quote="Wite_Rabit";p="617332"]blah blah blah. if you want to be treated as a single boy, fucking act like one. if your desire is to get a girl in the sack, treat her like a sexual object, not someone you care about in the long-term as a friend.

not to be overly crass. but really.

You meet a girl. You talk to girl for a bit, she gives you her number. Don't leap on it, call her a few days later, when you remember. Ultimately, if you get someone's phone number and want to call that person immediately within the first dozen hours (and she doesn't call YOU), drop it. I only say that because love at first sight DOES sometimes happen, and its a two-way street. Otherwise you just get creepy.

and yes, i know that from experience.

Treat her like a potential date, rather than a potential friend. Girls love being treated like a friend first, yadda yadda. That, though, is that whole long-term lovers-in-the-end game. if a girl wants to date RIGHT NOW, you'll know it. stop getting sore over girls who all want either end-game, or no-game.

How many women IS this, anyways? five, six? ten? Or, several dozen? What sort of cross-section are you basing this claim on? also, you're EIGHTEEN. Live a little.[/quote]

I like how you're only two years older, yet think you're somehow qualified on this one. If you want to get ahead with women, treat them like sexual objects? You've got a long hard road of dating ahead of you unless you're in a frat.
Show a girl you're interested in her. Pay attention. Buy flowers. Be spontaneous. Take her out to comedy shows, zoos, anything interesting and fun. Don't be afraid to cuddle and smooch after the second date if all's going well. And don't listen to Wite_Rabit.

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