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Post by Deacon » Fri Aug 25, 2006 7:16 pm

StruckingFuggle, you may be unfamiliar with this newfangled thing called "evolution", but it basically infers that we humans are hard-wired with an inherent compulsion to protect our (mostly defensless) children more so than adults that generally should fend for themselves, especially when those children have likely done nothing to deserve reprocussion. Remember, we're talking about a 2 year old, here, entirely incapable defending himself, of understanding why he's being hurt, and who has not done anything that would warrant that kind of abuse.

And kids being shits aren't because they're kids, it's because they're humans who have yet to learn social boundaries, often due to poor parenting (or a total lack thereof). Adults are usually far more shitty toward each other and can do far more damage as a result, especially in the evil passive-agressive manner.
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Post by 10bellies » Sat Aug 26, 2006 5:47 pm

[quote="Martin Blank";p="664409"]This qualifies as special circumstances in most states, meaning automatic life in prison without parole, if not a shot at the death penalty.[/quote]
If only we could follow suit over here.
Example 1
Example 2
Example 3

So called 'justice' here is a fucking joke.

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Post by Metzgirl » Sat Aug 26, 2006 10:41 pm

Wow... a life sentence with a 5 year minimum. Somehow doesn't sound right.

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Post by StruckingFuggle » Sat Aug 26, 2006 10:55 pm

Because of course minimum means the same thing as maximum.
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Post by Metzgirl » Sat Aug 26, 2006 10:58 pm

I was thinking more that a life sentence should be a life sentence. Unless they're using it to predict his future or something of that nature, it's an oximoron in my book.

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Post by coyote blue » Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:37 pm

Deacon, I see what you mean:

Little hurts like "No, you can't go to the mall with your friends today." is something a parent really can't avoid when you are trying to raise your children with limitations. When I say hurt, I basically mean beating them to a point where they are scarred emotionally and physically. To rape them, allow them to be molested, etc. To tell a child that they are worthless and call them names and put them down is all wrong. To intentionally hurt a child I cannot do, unless it is for their own good.
Such as: No, you can't hang out with that group of people, they do drugs, etc.

StruckingFuggle,
There is no age as to when it is ok to abuse/beat someone. But to do it to a child who can't even run away, who doesn't know that what is happening isn't normal is wrong. An adult and teenagers do have self defense, they also know how to run away and avoid the situation better. My two year old could not run out of the house and call for help if I hurt her, but my six year old can. Do I think that it is more palatable to hurt my 6 year old because she can run? No. She is still a child who, like any child, can actually do no wrong enough to deserve molestation or extreme physical and emotional abuse.

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Post by Deacon » Mon Aug 28, 2006 4:52 am

Ah, yeah, that makes more sense. Thanks for clarifying.
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