Six Reasons (The Christian) God Exists

Deacon · Post by **Deacon** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 1:43 am

I have no idea what you're saying at this point. Something about "counter-intuititve to itself scripture"? Really? Here's a hint: Jesus was a Jew. He wasn't a black dude from Ethiopia, regardless of whatever it is you're talking about "Jews breeding." Great choice of words, by the way.

StruckingFuggle · Post by **StruckingFuggle** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 1:45 am

Weren't there black dudes, from the area, rather than "Ethiopia", in the area, though?

jimkatai · Post by **jimkatai** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:31 am

Yes there were. Although, Deacon is ignoring that. My counter-intuitive to itself comment was saying that, as you stated, the scripture seems to obviously point out that it was referring to the color of the hair and not the texture. I was just bringing up the point that the scripture I was presenting is the scripture that people point to when they say Jesus was black. I have said this in EVERY post I have replied to you with, so I will stop repeating myself and will only reply when something new comes up.

I AM NOT SAYING JESUS WAS BLACK, JUST THAT SOMEONE OUT THERE DID NOT JUST SIMPLY STATE "JESUS IS BLACK!" BUT RATHER SIMPLY STATED THAT "JESUS IS BLACK AND HERE IS MY CRAPPY, VAGUE SCRIPTURE THAT ALMOST, SORTA-KINDA, IN A WAY EXPLAINS MY STANCE, MAYBE."
There. That should be clear enough. If you respond to this with, "But he wasn't black!! It is, like, soooooooo obvious!" then, well, I guess I'll just leave it up to the other board members here to just shake their heads in disgust, because I really don't care much to do anything else. You have drained me of my tolerance of ignorance.

EDIT: Judaism is not a race. The Jews in the Old Testament could have been anything from Arabs, Armenians, Assyrians, Berbers, Chaldeans, Kurds, Sahrawis, Tuareq, and Turkmen, among thousands of other races that existed at the time. This long list of multiple races and nationalities explains why Jews are not a race. Otherwise, one would have to say that a Palestinian that believed in a Palestinian religion would be a Jew simply because he is an Arab.

NorthernComfort · Post by **NorthernComfort** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:32 am

Deacon, I still want to know this magical land that the Jew race comes from.

I'm not about to read the Old Testament to find out this small curiosity. Where would the present day countries lie? I believe they are all in the Middle East, but I haven't read much of the Old Testament, so please... enlighten me.

jimkatai · Post by **jimkatai** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:49 am

Northern Comfort. Read my edit, and you will get your answer.

Nukinblackmage · Post by **Nukinblackmage** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:07 am

I just really wanna know where Deacon got that "Jew" was a race...

Deacon · Post by **Deacon** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:46 am

[quote="Deacon";p="685773"]Joseph was not black.[/quote]
I already pointed you people to his geneology, a subject of much study. And I love that you assholes, suddenly realizing that 2,000+ years later the ethnic landscape has changed, are suddenly starting to throw caution to the wind in a feeding frenzy of stupidity, hoping for a piece of a forbidden fruit. If you're truly unclear as to the history of Judaism and the ethnicity of the Jewish people in Jesus' day, and you're as smart as you're claiming you are and as sincere in your alleged thirst for knowledge, I'm sure you'll be able to leverage the basics of the internet to figure out whether the Jews are actually a tribe of black Africans or not. You might even be able to invent some semantics based arguments while you're at it.

Enjoy your quest for true and lasting enlightenment.

jimkatai · Post by **jimkatai** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:06 am

Jews are Arabs!!!!!!!!!! They existed back then, you prick. Jews are a religion. Simply because you can state geneology does not make them a race. I can trace my Bradley heritage. Does that mean there is a Bradley race that is seperate from all other races? Also, you fail to acknowledge the fact that you have no list of the females in that group. As to Jesus being black, did you not read the bold print? That is a non-issue. The subject of discussion is where the hell you get the idea of Jewish people being a race. If you want to talk about you stating that Jesus was Arab, since you are speaking of race, because you can look at his geneology, wouldn't we all be Jewish if we all descended from Adam & Eve? You may say it is a technicality but Abraham is a long way from Jesus.

Deacon · Post by **Deacon** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:13 am

[quote="jimkatai";p="685973"]Jews are Arabs!!!!!!!!!! They existed back then, you prick. Jews are a religion.[/quote]
That's some fantastic information right there.

Simply because you can state geneology does not make them a race.

It does, however, settle the question regarding Jesus' background, does it not?

The subject of discussion is where the hell you get the idea of Jewish people being a race.

Really? That's the subject of discussion now? Because I somewhere said something about a Jewish race? Where did I say it? All I can recall saying is that Jesus was a Jew from northern Israel, as compared to a black dude or a white European. And why is the concept of the ethnicity of the Jews being distinct from Africans so incomprehensible to you, regardless of a horrifyingly bad misreading of scripture?

Nukinblackmage · Post by **Nukinblackmage** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:25 am

So, you're saying that all Jews are not black? You racist.

Deacon · Post by **Deacon** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:28 am

It's hard for me to tell when you're pulling my leg, so my only response will be, "No," and to repeat myself once again:
[quote="Deacon";p="685975"]Jesus was a Jew from northern Israel[/quote]And to remind you that I provided the geneology to back that statement up.

jimkatai · Post by **jimkatai** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:32 am

[quote="Deacon";p="685975"]n now? Because I somewhere said something about a Jewish race? Where did I say it? All I can recall saying is that Jesus was a Jew from northern Israel, as compared to a black dude or a white European. And why is the concept of the ethnicity of the Jews being distinct from Africans so incomprehensible to you, regardless of a horrifyingly bad misreading of scripture?[/quote]

It is a non-issue with me at least because I said this

I AM NOT SAYING JESUS WAS BLACK, JUST THAT SOMEONE OUT THERE DID NOT JUST SIMPLY STATE "JESUS IS BLACK!" BUT RATHER SIMPLY STATED THAT "JESUS IS BLACK AND HERE IS MY CRAPPY, VAGUE SCRIPTURE THAT ALMOST, SORTA-KINDA, IN A WAY EXPLAINS MY STANCE, MAYBE."

As to saying that Jesus had to be ARAB and had a skin-tone of an Arab (not Jew because Judaism is a religion), tell me Mary's geneology then, smart ass. You would have to know both their geneology to make that statement.

Nukinblackmage · Post by **Nukinblackmage** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:53 am

So, you're saying that Joseph was Jesus' natural father?

jimkatai · Post by **jimkatai** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:58 am

Me or Deacon? I take it Deacon. I'm just referring to Joseph as the natural father because... hmmmmm... I don't know why. I guess it was because I am more insistent on Deacon having to know Mary's bloodline. We should combine in our efforts. God is the father of Jesus and there is no way of knowing his race, although he almost definitely (never say always) doesn't have one, so it is a non-issue on what Joseph's geneology is. Deacon, we need Mary's geneology. Can you, in all your wisdom, find that?

Deacon · Post by **Deacon** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:58 pm

http://www.google.com/search?q=genealogy+of+mary

I am wise indeed.

Jackasses.

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