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Limp shakes always seem to me like "ehhhh, you're not really worth the effort". Ugh.
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I was always taught to shake with a strong grip. Which often leads to complaints to those with more fragile hands.

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Sweet. So the episode of King of the Hill where Hank shook President Bush's hand and almost refused to vote because of the limpness was really a poke at the Pres' power/feelings at that moment?
As for the Fraternizing thing: I definately agree with keeping business and personal relationships seperate. If something goes poorly in the personal side of things, work can get really weird. Even if it's just an ill-percieved stand-offishness or something. However, having all-group get togethers (Christmas parties or whatever) can be quite fun, especially if everyone gets along really well. Since this seems to have been an all-group kind of thing, I would call it ok.
Note: I have personally experienced this, since one of the assistant managers at Pier 1 was also a friend of mine from campus who actually got me the job. We had a couple of odd "I accidentally insulted you" times where working together became difficult. For the most part, it wasn't much of an issue, but I can understand now why they recommend against it.
As for the Fraternizing thing: I definately agree with keeping business and personal relationships seperate. If something goes poorly in the personal side of things, work can get really weird. Even if it's just an ill-percieved stand-offishness or something. However, having all-group get togethers (Christmas parties or whatever) can be quite fun, especially if everyone gets along really well. Since this seems to have been an all-group kind of thing, I would call it ok.
Note: I have personally experienced this, since one of the assistant managers at Pier 1 was also a friend of mine from campus who actually got me the job. We had a couple of odd "I accidentally insulted you" times where working together became difficult. For the most part, it wasn't much of an issue, but I can understand now why they recommend against it.
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Hahahaha, AzraeL 
But seriously, a firm handshake need not break bones or grind knuckles. Nor does it really require any special hand or wrist strength. When you meet someone, look them in the eye, crack a genuine smile, and give a firm handshake. It shows congeniality and confidence and communicates a straight-forward and open attitude. All good things. Hopefully this comes naturally because you are a confident, congenial, straight-forward and open person.
But seriously, a firm handshake need not break bones or grind knuckles. Nor does it really require any special hand or wrist strength. When you meet someone, look them in the eye, crack a genuine smile, and give a firm handshake. It shows congeniality and confidence and communicates a straight-forward and open attitude. All good things. Hopefully this comes naturally because you are a confident, congenial, straight-forward and open person.
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Arrogant? What?
The only thing I can think of that you might mean is when some asshole puts your hand in a vice grip for obvious malicious purposes. You have to grip pretty damned hard to hurt someone (all other things being equal), and if you manage it, it is an obvious intimidation tactic.
But arrogant? Poor word choice.
The only thing I can think of that you might mean is when some asshole puts your hand in a vice grip for obvious malicious purposes. You have to grip pretty damned hard to hurt someone (all other things being equal), and if you manage it, it is an obvious intimidation tactic.
But arrogant? Poor word choice.
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To continue the derailment...
What I hate is when the handshaker grabs just your fingertips in a half-handshake. Personally I wish we'd stop shaking hands altogether and just nod. It's surprising how few people actually wash their hands after using the restroom. As soon as I started paying attention to how many dudes do that at work I immediately stopped shaking hands with people at work. And out of the ones who do at least approach the sink, the majority of them just run their hands under the water and call it good.
Nasty, nasty, nasty.
What I hate is when the handshaker grabs just your fingertips in a half-handshake. Personally I wish we'd stop shaking hands altogether and just nod. It's surprising how few people actually wash their hands after using the restroom. As soon as I started paying attention to how many dudes do that at work I immediately stopped shaking hands with people at work. And out of the ones who do at least approach the sink, the majority of them just run their hands under the water and call it good.
Nasty, nasty, nasty.
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Hmm, when I think of a firm handshake, I'm not referring to a vise-like grip. I'm just talking about when the shaker attempts to put some tension in his or her muscles. A hand shake is mutual. I don't what to shake your hand; I want to shake hands (almost had a comma splice there). You do NOT need a vise-like grip to communicate a firm handshake. I have a firm handshake, and I've shaken many arthritic hands; no complaints so far.
I also like those games of "mercy" though... For a modestly built guy, I have enourmous strength in my hands. That, and the knuckle trick really doesn't bother me. I've been mistaken for a masochist, because tricks like that don't work on me
I also like those games of "mercy" though... For a modestly built guy, I have enourmous strength in my hands. That, and the knuckle trick really doesn't bother me. I've been mistaken for a masochist, because tricks like that don't work on me

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[quote="LQDMTL";p="687946"]To continue the derailment...
What I hate is when the handshaker grabs just your fingertips in a half-handshake. Personally I wish we'd stop shaking hands altogether and just nod. It's surprising how few people actually wash their hands after using the restroom. As soon as I started paying attention to how many dudes do that at work I immediately stopped shaking hands with people at work. And out of the ones who do at least approach the sink, the majority of them just run their hands under the water and call it good.
Nasty, nasty, nasty.[/quote]
Handshaking isn't as bad as kissing on the cheek. Ever had to kiss everyone you meet? Even just to say hello? Makes you see handshaking in a whole different light.
What I hate is when the handshaker grabs just your fingertips in a half-handshake. Personally I wish we'd stop shaking hands altogether and just nod. It's surprising how few people actually wash their hands after using the restroom. As soon as I started paying attention to how many dudes do that at work I immediately stopped shaking hands with people at work. And out of the ones who do at least approach the sink, the majority of them just run their hands under the water and call it good.
Nasty, nasty, nasty.[/quote]
Handshaking isn't as bad as kissing on the cheek. Ever had to kiss everyone you meet? Even just to say hello? Makes you see handshaking in a whole different light.
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[quote="AzraeL";p="687874"]Yeah, it was a disaster when FireAza met everyone at the arthritis convention.[/quote]
On the plus side, they can't feel the pain of arthritis any more
On the plus side, they can't feel the pain of arthritis any more

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[quote="sneaky ninja";p="688120"]Handshaking isn't as bad as kissing on the cheek. Ever had to kiss everyone you meet? Even just to say hello? Makes you see handshaking in a whole different light.[/quote]
I am now determined to do this the next time we meet.
I am now determined to do this the next time we meet.
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