Is it still ok for Illegal Immigrants to come here?

Deacon · Post by **Deacon** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 7:47 pm

I agree with your observations. I don't think there's any legitimate reason for it to be that way.

Accer · Post by **Accer** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 7:55 pm

Deacon, 2 minutes or less with Google will give you these numbers. I know how you hate reseaching things for yourself though.

The are giant approximates, of course. You are right about location possibly skewing the odds (even though I already mentioned that I was not counting other factors, perhaps you didn't read that), but as it happens, the estimated percentages for San Antoino are the same.

Herr Doktor! · Post by **Herr Doktor!** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 9:23 pm

[quote="Deacon";p="705849"]I agree with your observations. I don't think there's any legitimate reason for it to be that way.[/quote]
That is indeed stupid. I mean, it's one thing to be a bit lax (UK), or waaaay too bureaucratic (France) about these things, but the situation in the US is quite silly. Don't you guys have a big problem with identity theft and fake identities because of this?

Ric_Price · Post by **Ric_Price** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 9:38 pm

Martin, if you want none-mailed facts, here's one.

It was A Pakistani, 3 South Americans, and a Mexican that all were here illegally that gang rapped my sister.

adciv · Post by **adciv** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 10:13 pm

Herr Doktor!, Yes. To the tune of over $50 billion a year last I saw.

ILurker · Post by **ILurker** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 6:04 am

[quote="Ric_Price";p="705857"]Martin, if you want none-mailed facts, here's one.

It was A Pakistani, 3 South Americans, and a Mexican that all were here illegally that gang rapped my sister.[/quote]

... aaand...?

Deacon · Post by **Deacon** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 6:10 am

And they spit hot fire, laid down dope beats, and generally were the most fantastic rapping talent he'd ever heard, and she ran away to be with them on their 40-city tour, leaving him with all the rent and bills to pay. He's never forgiven them.

Ric_Price · Post by **Ric_Price** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 7:07 am

No,

If those fuckers had not been able to come into this country illegally that would not have happened. Only thing you got right Deacon is I have never forgiven them. I have no issues if someone wants to come here legally like my brother in law did, but I have issues when they come here illegally. Coming here illegally proves one of two things in my book. Either you are too damn impatient to do it right, or you are coming here to do illegal activities like that, running drugs, or causing other sorts of illegal havoc and showing a blatant disregard for doing things right.

Yira Heerai · Post by **Yira Heerai** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 8:26 am

Ric_Price, I think I'm just going to say that I've probably been there (hurrah repressed memory!) and I can understand where you're coming from with this but that I don't quite agree with your stance on illegals.

I'm also going to leave it at that because it's a personal issue for you and I'd rather not anger you.

Ric_Price · Post by **Ric_Price** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 8:36 am

Yira, no angering me will happen. Illegals are a drain on this country and do not belong here without being here legally.

To simplify my stance...

All persons here illegally that have committed crimes beyond when they came here. Crimes like what most citizens would be arrested for, ship their asses out, no questions asked. For those who have been productive since coming here, give them a chance to become legal and if they do not take that chance, ship their asses out then.

StruckingFuggle · Post by **StruckingFuggle** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 8:39 am

All persons here illegally that have committed crimes beyond when they came here.

And your proof for this is...?

jimkatai · Post by **jimkatai** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 8:40 am

Actually, not a stance I have heard before and a pretty good stance. I approve that message. I've never cared much about the whole illegals thing. I always found it flabbergasting that people could do something completely illegal and not get repercussions for breaking the law when this happens to be a law we have for a reason, but it's not something I especially cared about.

EDIT: You do realize that is a sentence fragment and was probably meant as people that have been found guilty of said crime... then the rest of his sentence. I think you are misconstruing it as all illegals commit crimes, which he specifically states otherwise later.

Ric_Price · Post by **Ric_Price** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 8:42 am

See,

I am not a completely unreasonable ass.

ILurker · Post by **ILurker** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 9:08 am

[quote="Ric_Price";p="705969"]All persons here illegally that have committed crimes beyond when they came here. Crimes like what most citizens would be arrested for, ship their asses out, no questions asked. For those who have been productive since coming here, give them a chance to become legal and if they do not take that chance, ship their asses out then.[/quote]

Looks like you might be benefiting from the drug running to think that is a claim that makes perfect sense, unless you include the act of illegal immigration, in which case your statement is merely ridiculous.

I'm sorry your sister was raped, but they were probably illegal because they were already bad people, not bad people because they were illegal.

Ric_Price · Post by **Ric_Price** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 9:12 am

I am not benefitting from anything Lurker. I say give the folks who are making an effort to be decent folks, regardless of the fact they came here illegally should have the chance to truly become good and decent and legal.

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