Parents & Censors & Bears, Oh my!

Koeniou · Post by **Koeniou** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 3:28 am

At work we have all manner of games & DVDs. The customers that I know are trying to keep their kids clear of M rated games etc I give discount to. Yay for positive reinforcement.

I've had a few bring games back (if they had come in with the kid but forgot to check the rating I mention it if I get a chance, or most catch it in the car) to swap it for stuff more apporiate.

I also made a guy get some ID before I hired out a porn movie to him.

Skorpion · Post by **Skorpion** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 3:40 am

I also made a guy get some ID before I hired out a porn movie to him.

It's people like you that cause me so much anguish reconstructing my wallet every 6 months. If people didn't automatically card me when buying booze or violent videogames, it would get a lot less wear on being pried out of my pocket, and the tape would come off less frequently.
Of course, it would be so much easier if I could find a worth replacement, but NOWHERE sells leather wallets with zips anymore. Soon it'll be more tape and wire than leather.

Koeniou · Post by **Koeniou** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 3:56 am

The didn't even have his wallet with him, it was in the car. His girlfriend was going to pay for the movie, but according to the account she was only 16. So no dice there.

My boss was standing behind me laughing his ass off.

Post by **Blaze** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 4:18 am

Edit: It should be the child's decision. Failing that, it should at least be the parents' decision. It certainly shouldn't be the joint decision of the government and whatever silly and stupid committe is convened to determine where something fits into some limited and idiotic rubric.

It should be the Child's decision on what games they play?

Clearly not, because these kids, about 8 and 6, wanted to play GTA. Obviously they can't MAKE that decision, because it's not a healthy game for kids of that age to be playing.

Nukinblackmage · Post by **Nukinblackmage** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:00 am

How is it "not a healthy game" Blaze? Does it feed them sugar and tell them to not brush their teeth after? Does it make them fat and lazy? Does it degrade their eyesight?

jimkatai · Post by **jimkatai** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:25 am

Is this a serious thought process going through your head? Do you seriously not get why this isn't a good thing for your average 8 year-old kid to play? Oh, but I'm guessing you think you are smarter than that, and you didn't have problems like that when you were a kid, huh? Possibly don't remember playing something like Batman or Superman or anything like that, right? Yeah, can't wait to see my (hypothetical) 8 year-old kid playing an imaginitive game with his friends where he has to shoot up his other friends so he can own the street "for Grove St. yo!"

Not to say I join the bandwagon on games are bad. I am of the general opinion here that the rating system is enough, along with SOME laws regarding the sale, like we have on movies.

wocket · Post by **wocket** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:25 am

Oh come off it. He meant mental health as opposed to physical health and you are intelligent enough to pick up on that without making a post like that.

gravity · Post by **gravity** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:26 am

I don't think the Comic Book Code is enforced anymore. The last I heard, it got thrown out the window in the 1980's. And, if I remember correctly, Dark Horse never signed the Code to begin with.

My main point of evidence, for any of you that read it, the Costume section (they say this is the 1954 version, but they also mention it was updated in the 1980's.):

Costume

(1) Nudity in any form is prohibited, as is indecent or undue exposure.

(2) Suggestive and salacious illustration or suggestive posture is unacceptable.

(3) All characters shall be depicted in dress reasonably acceptable to society.

(4) Females shall be drawn realistically without exaggeration of any physical qualities.

Anyone remember the last time this was true outside of an Archie comic? I mean yes, even my mother picked up a copy of the Thor comic simply because Odin looked to be a drunk, and Thor a cross dresser (this was on the front cover), but I don't think you can actually read a current edition of any comic book and find any of it to be true. Especially not the one that had Storm walking around naked. That was weird.

That said, my father bought Wolfenstein 3-d back in the early 90's and thought it okay for my brother and I to play. It was fun. Heck, because of all of the controversy about GTA3 he went and bought a copy, just to piss people off.

Yes, I do think it shouldn't be legal for a 10 year old child to walk into a store and buy an M or higher rated game. Their parents might approve, but, just like at the movies, there parents should be there buying it with them, then. It's called PARENTING, and they chose to have the child, so they should be doing it.

Ugg. I can understand censors if it's going to show on ABC or something at 2pm. Censor away, Disney. You own the station, you choose what to show. But, to be honest, censors should go ram themselves. Not everything in this world needs to be censored.

jimkatai · Post by **jimkatai** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:32 am

Oh come off it. He meant mental health as opposed to physical health and you are intelligent enough to pick up on that without making a post like that.

Wait, okay so he is nitpicking on Blaze for not saying the kid's mental health ? Sounds like he was objecting to the idea that an 8 year-old kid playing GTA is not hazordous to his adolescent development or he is assessing the physical health of the kid as the only important aspect, ignoring mental health. The latter take on his statement was not really responded to, but the idea is still just as idiotic.

Yira Heerai · Post by **Yira Heerai** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:50 am

Considering that Greg Land uses hardcore porn for his references photos and no longer bothers to try and hide this fact, I'm going to agree with gravity on the Comic Book Code. I have proof, but I'm not sure if I can link it. There's clothes, there's no nudity but the position the person is in and the expression on her face is... very suggestive.

Person #1: What the heck is she supposed to be doing in this panel, anyways?
Person #2: She's being flung backwards by a shockwave.
Person #3: And really enjoying it, by the looks of things.

And let's not forget Doom Patrol vs. Codpiece.

I'll agree with most of the people here and say that censorship is good for some things, but sometimes simple parenting is the best solution to most of the problems these people are raising hell over.

Bigity · Post by **Bigity** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 1:32 pm

[quote="Skorpion";p="706573"]Videogames and cartoons are NOT for children. They are for teenagers and young adults; children simply don't appreciate anything.

Prosecute the idiots that buy rated games for the children, just like I'm threatened with jail time for buying booze for 16 year olds.[/quote]

You mean VIOLENT video games and cartoons right?

Because otherwise, you just said cartoons are not for children, they are for teenagers.

Skorpion · Post by **Skorpion** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 4:59 pm

[quote="Bigity";p="706691"][quote="Skorpion";p="706573"]Videogames and cartoons are NOT for children. They are for teenagers and young adults; children simply don't appreciate anything.

Prosecute the idiots that buy rated games for the children, just like I'm threatened with jail time for buying booze for 16 year olds.[/quote]

You mean VIOLENT video games and cartoons right?

Because otherwise, you just said cartoons are not for children, they are for teenagers.

[/quote]

I said what I meant, and meant what I said. Videogames and cartoons are not for children. ANY of them.

Hylius the LC · Post by **Hylius the LC** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 5:54 pm

I don't agree with that right there. Some kids can handle it, some can't. My nephew is 6 and he plays games with me all the time. Ghost Recon, Call of Duty, he knows it's just a game. I don't think he's going to bring an AK to his 1st grade classroom anytime soon.

Post by **Blaze** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:36 pm

[quote="jimkatai";p="706666"]

Oh come off it. He meant mental health as opposed to physical health and you are intelligent enough to pick up on that without making a post like that.

Wait, okay so he is nitpicking on Blaze for not saying the kid's mental health ? Sounds like he was objecting to the idea that an 8 year-old kid playing GTA is not hazordous to his adolescent development or he is assessing the physical health of the kid as the only important aspect, ignoring mental health. The latter take on his statement was not really responded to, but the idea is still just as idiotic.[/quote]

She meant Nukin.

Arc Orion · Post by **Arc Orion** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 9:58 pm

[quote="Skorpion";p="706708"]I said what I meant, and meant what I said. Videogames and cartoons are not for children. ANY of them.[/quote]Those fucking Smurfs are clearly pornographic.

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