Jan 30th - Frolicking

Talk about today's strip, or anything about the comic in general. You can also talk about any of the characters... but don't expect a response. They're FICTIONAL, you guys... sheesh. :)
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Post by Ward5x5 » Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:54 pm

Ilyria, from Illyria from Angel, Illyria was taken however, so I dumped an L.
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Post by StruckingFuggle » Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:00 pm

Oooooooh. Okay.
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Post by BtEO » Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:29 pm

[quote="Ward5x5";p="714762"]Also, all the people on the realm are way more helpfull, especially if you pick a female sounding name to go with it.[/quote]
Apparently you're not the only one to figure that out.
TechRepublic wrote:Kathryn Wright, WomenGamers.com's consulting psychologist, earlier this decade found that 60 percent of male players who don female avatars, or on-screen personas, do it to gain an advantage in game play.

An enthusiast with the online handle Jackpot649 nailed the zeitgeist in his response to the About.com query: "I'm a guy, but if I gotta look at an avatar all day, I'd sooner look at a female avatar. Plus, people give you more free stuff."

Gamers, both male and female, say female avatars confirm what they already knew: Being a pretty girl has its perks. Female avatars are often the center of attention and showered with gifts such as swords or armor by other characters.

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Post by Oriden » Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:02 pm

Pfft, the female blood elves have a really crappy dance. While the male one is cool.

That is the main reason not to play a female blood elf.

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Post by StruckingFuggle » Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:11 pm

Pfft, the female blood elves have a really crappy dance. While the male one is cool.
No, they don't.

Let me say it clearer.

No, they don't.


Please. Do not encourage the goddamn Napoleon fuckin' Dynamite cultural phenomenon any more. Ever. And it's not even that good of a dance.

:x :x :x

More of a rant, I guess, but it also belongs here.
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"In your histories, there are continual justifications for all manner of hellish actions. Claims of nobility and heritage and honor to cover up every bit of genocide, assassination, and massacre. At least the Horde is honest in their naked lust for power."

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Post by Gouf_Custom » Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:32 pm

I generally play male characters, myself. When I create a female one, there is a reason. In some single player RPGs, it's to see what other options are given.

Or, as was the case in KoTOR, I played female because it helped me get into the frame of mind of embracing the dark side.
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Post by Bigity » Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:46 pm

[quote="StruckingFuggle";p="714779"]
Pfft, the female blood elves have a really crappy dance. While the male one is cool.
No, they don't.

Let me say it clearer.

No, they don't.


Please. Do not encourage the goddamn Napoleon fuckin' Dynamite cultural phenomenon any more. Ever. And it's not even that good of a dance.

:x :x :x

More of a rant, I guess, but it also belongs here.[/quote]

Dude. That whole scene was pretty damn funny. Although the NE smooth criminal dance is pretty sweet as well.
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Post by DanShive » Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:03 pm

It's easier for me to roleplay a convincing female character than a male one. I choose to believe it's a result of the social expectations other people have and nothing bizarre about my own psych :?

In WoW, I'd be more interested in playing as male characters if they weren't all so beefy. I don't want to be that muscular, particularly if I'm going to play as a class where sleekness or lankiness would be more appropriate. Blood elves might be different and I'd definitely play tauren as male, but those are the only horde species I like. The others don't appeal to me at all, so I prefer the Alliance for purely environmental reasons.

It's also more fun to dress up female characters, though I actually make an effort to keep them modest. Even if they have skimpy armor there's going to be a shirt on underneath that compliments the color of the armor. I may change that should I ever play a rogue, however.

I don't care about the "butt factor"; I seek out long capes anyway :roll:

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Post by spikegirl7 » Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:07 pm

yes, it's true that females have certain advantages in the game world (an in RL too, but we won't go into that.... hopefully) but that's common knowledge. Although in some games male characters have better strength stats or something of that sort.
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Post by Oriden » Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:36 pm

[quote="StruckingFuggle";p="714779"]
Pfft, the female blood elves have a really crappy dance. While the male one is cool.
No, they don't.

Let me say it clearer.

No, they don't.


Please. Do not encourage the goddamn Napoleon fuckin' Dynamite cultural phenomenon any more. Ever. And it's not even that good of a dance.

:x :x :x

More of a rant, I guess, but it also belongs here.[/quote]


The female dance is random clips of britney spears dances that don't even go together.

Cultural phenomenon or not, I'd prefer an actual dance then random movements.


Also, the whole "I don't like something because its cool to like it" is really lame.

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Post by Forumchibi » Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:46 pm

[quote="Binks";p="714728"]You know I've never really understood the whole playing a female character when you're a male in RL thing. I've heard all the arguments, like the one two posts or so up, but I could never roll a girl character in any game...it'd be too weird.[/quote]

I'm at work, so I've nothing to do until closing time, so forgive me for a long post. :P

In my experience, I don't understand why people are weirded out by a male playing a female character unless you're afraid of women or are homophobic, and I'm not accusing anyone of that because there is nothing wrong with a guy wanting to play a male character over a female character, and vice versa, but since people are very vague or uncomfortable about discussing it, I can't really understand the train of thought.

I was playing PSU for a while and teamed up a lot with two guys who knew each other in real life, one played a male and the other a female, and the guy talked about his friend like he was a freak..... why? If you're worried your friend is gay, if you're worried your friend will start hitting on you or start acting like a girl in real life, if you're afraid it's going to rub off on you, you're homophobic, and in today's society and for your own mental health, you need to get over it. In fact I would not be surprised if more people thought a guy was gay for only wanting to play male characters.

Guys playing a female character really never has anything at all to do with sex. Even if a guy was gay and was trying to pick up other guys, why would you play a girl? And no, guys don't make female characters so they can get it on every time they play; that's what porn is for. If that were true, Jack Thompson would have put censorship on every game and rated them all Mature long ago. If you're looking for a real life relationship then sure, play a male character (but good luck with that one).

It doesn't make guys any less masculine in real life when they play a girl, 1 because it's not real and no one even knows what your gender in real life is, and 2, many games, especially now, are made with female characters as the lead for a male audience - Lara Croft from Tomb Raider, Samus Aran from Metroid, games like Final Fantasy X-2, Xenosaga, Dead or Alive, Valkyrie Profile, you name it. There's nothing weird at all about people wanting to play those games.

There are plenty of reasons why, besides sex, guys play girl characters:

Gender/class stereotyping - from LotR to Final Fantasy, though it is not always true, most of the time the healers, casters... the people who stand in the back and need to be saved all the time, are females, NOT that that's how it should be, but that's just how it is (FFIV, FFVII, FFVIII, FFIX, FFX, FFX-2 all had important female characters whose roles were confined to healing, casting, or attacking from the back row with long range weapons, while the guys did all the melee work). On the flip side, you have women who kick much butt like Paine, Lara Croft, and Xena. Also consider that mages are generally expected to be frail - not completely muscle bound like the Human males of WoW. It's like watching Hercules toss his sword away and start waving around a magic wand with a cute star on it like it was magical girl anime - it just doesn't fit the image.

Visually - most people don't want to be paying $15 a month to roleplay as someone who looks dumb and ugly, as most MMORPG males do for whatever reason, and use clothes as an excuse to cover it up. Human males in WoW are a good example of why you might not want to play one - they look like thugs... and thanks to the face choices, dumb thugs. This is the same reason I don't play Horde-side... they're ugly (except the Blood Elves, maybe the Taurens, but I quit WoW a few months before the expansion)! I find little enjoyment in playing an ugly character, teaming up with ugly races, running around in dead forsaken lands, and strolling through crumbling cities with skeleton children prancing between me and the canals of green ooze, but that's just me. If I wanted to look more bad@$$ or if I went along with the story of Warcraft (since none of the Horde races are actually evil persay), then I would play them, but it's just not my cup of tea. And (un)fortunately for WoW, for some reason women are also built like they're practically men anyway.

Roleplay - lots of people who play have a story for their characters in mind, like your entire account is the cast of a Final Fantasy game - like you don't wish you had a healer named Aeris and a warrior named Cloud (even though you can't play them all at once).

Visuals vs. Roleplay - Online, there are very few differences between male and female players in terms of behavior, making visual and roleplaying easily seperable. Females don't have special phrases like, "Oh Em Gee! A monster is heading toward me, oh save me please!!" or "Looking for a mage to conjure water... and give me a good time cause I'm sooo hawt!"... now that would be really creepy no matter what gender the player is. So just because you're a guy playing a girl doesn't mean you have to act any different, it's purely based on what kind of character you want to look at. You don't have to call people sweetie, conversely you don't have to /em burp or /em scratches self. Unless you specifically tell them, most people will never know what gender the player is, so it's not like you make a female character to trick everyone and go around flirting like that's the sole purpose of every male player... and you can pretend like you know what gender someone really is and guess, but you'd be surprised. I was playing a female caster in PSO a long while back and a guy thought I was a girl because I used grammar and punctuation in my sentences.

Also, what reason would you find yourself only playing male characters, but not female? "Guys kick more butt and are superior physically to women." Tell that to a female player and they will prove you wrong, painfully. "I'm more familiar with guys." True, but that's not a reason why you wouldn't conceive of playing a female. "I like looking a guys more than girls." To each his own as I've said with my Horde example, but it's not a reason why you can't understand the flip side of why someone would like looking a girls more than guys.

... and this is the end of my rant since it's finally time for me to close the store and go home for the day, hallelujah...

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Post by Ward5x5 » Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:55 pm

it's more an essay than a rant :P
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Post by Lizzegirle » Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:26 am

tl;dr

I want to make it abundantly clear that this didn't happen. I am one of the coolest wives a man can ask for. There was one night, several moons ago, that I kicked Greg and Cliff out of the house and told them to go to a strip club. In fact, when Greg and I were talking about rolling up blood elves, I was stating that I would roll up a warlock so that I could get a succubus. Once my succubus and I were on the screen there would be, "Just too damn much sexy for anyone to handle".

I think the reason why it freaks people out is then a person never knows who is on the other side. I'm constantly saying, "Well [blank] said they would help us as we agreed to help her, um him, um, it, gah... I dunno." There have also been cases that went too far. Back when playing FFXI, we had a guild member who told us they were actually female. They continued the ruse so far that they actually agreed to date one of the other guild members and would spend much of his time talking on AIM with this other guild member. Once we discovered his secret, we were all shocked and felt really bad for the other said guild member. I doubt that this is the first time it has happened too.
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Post by random5 » Wed Jan 31, 2007 1:08 am

I'm currently playing WoW and I've rolled both female and male characters (I'm male). Mainly I do it for the looks, my characters have been:
Male orc warrior, because I wanted something imposing and I think the orcs are cool, also if you look at the back story the current playable orcs as 'good' as the humans, they're not an evil race like the forsaken or bloodelves.
Female human warlock, because male humans look stupid and I made this female look cute, not for the sexy, just for the attractiveness of it.
Male tauren druid, just because playing a female tauren would seem silly for some reason.
Male dranei shaman, because they're cool looking, and while the females are too I already had a female troll mage which has a similar look to a female dranei. Also being a shaman I wanted the appearance of strength. Not saying women can't be strong just that I get that impression more from the male characters and that's what I want.
Races I wouldn't play: Forsaken - too evil, gnome - too damn ridiculous.

This leads me to one of my gripes with WoW, that damned gnome warriors which come up to my orcs KNEES could take and inflict as much damage with their toys as I could with my massive noobstick (IBS :)) of doom!

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Post by jon1986 » Wed Jan 31, 2007 1:20 am

[quote="Lizzegirle";p="714818"]tl;dr
I think the reason why it freaks people out is then a person never knows who is on the other side. I'm constantly saying, "Well [blank] said they would help us as we agreed to help her, um him, um, it, gah... I dunno." There have also been cases that went too far. Back when playing FFXI, we had a guild member who told us they were actually female. They continued the ruse so far that they actually agreed to date one of the other guild members and would spend much of his time talking on AIM with this other guild member. Once we discovered his secret, we were all shocked and felt really bad for the other said guild member. I doubt that this is the first time it has happened too.[/quote]

That happened in my old guild, and if weren't for some real life events the guy would have continued faking being a female for a long time.
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