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Post by lifedeath » Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:19 pm

Oh….crap.

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I got out of the movie so disappointed that I was actually ready to cry. :(

It’s not that the movie is actual bad (nothing like V…thank god) not even mediocre, it’s fine, its good, it’s just fine to see it, but…but I wanted so much more. I was promised by the whole trailers and the “frank miller” involvement, one of the top ten action blockbusters…and in the end the movie is just one in the pile…nothing different, nothing really worthy, nothing really nice.

The movie lost in many ways, from the more and more and more lines, whole pages of dialogues that they should have never been there, whole scenes that for crying out loud what were they doing there? Have nobody told them that Spartans used to keep their mouth shut and just act?
“I love you…I love you too. I will follow you anywhere…oh boohoo I am dying…”
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I mean seriously. What the hell were all the Sparta scenes…why on earth did we need them? Did they try to make the film women-friendly by giving more role to the queen? Are they kidding us? The movie has ended up being by far, more misogynist than the ancient Athenians. That was seriously not a Spartan woman way of acting and thinking. :|
And the queen… the panel in the comic - with the queen’s crying noble eyes - had more acting than the whole movie.

Even in the action scenes (the main thing of the story) there wasn’t anything real exciting, not any extraordinary camera views, no remarkable moments. No cinema magic. There were some scenes that made you chill, yes, but they kept real for only a couple seconds. Most was “same old, same old”.
The best action scene in the end was by far the end-credits.

And not let me start with Nightmare (Efialtes), the change to his role was so big that he ended up exactly like anyone would remember him…a Judas. Miller had made me actual feel the character in the comic, see him in much different perspective. Damn movies…

Oh, anyway…I am tired to write anything more…the movie is just not right. It could be so much more, so much more.
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Post by Makh » Sun Mar 11, 2007 8:57 pm

They really made a movie about thermopylae? You people really need to get over it with Iran. :P

It should be interesting, I think. Is it inspired of Rudolph maté movie 300 Spartans? I hope for Miller, that he did not mention anything about homosexuality because I had impression, with movie Alexander, the audience was not ready for that kind of thing and that he should avoid polemik.

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Post by StruckingFuggle » Sun Mar 11, 2007 9:11 pm

Aparrently, in the world of 300, Athenians love boys, but Spartans don't. Funny, that.
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Post by RadicalDreamer » Mon Mar 12, 2007 12:40 am

[quote="Makh";p="723697"]...he should avoid polemik.[/quote]

I read that as "polemilk." Ugh...

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Post by Makh » Mon Mar 12, 2007 12:55 am

What? Spartans are certainly the best example of commonly accepted and integrated homosexuality. For Spartans, women are only instrument of reproduction and have not place in their timocratic regime. Perhaps I am wrong and Lifedeath knows more about this, I have been taught Spartans men return home after several months to make children (hoping it will be a boy) and they spend most of their lifetime with another soldier, with whom they were paired from childhood. Most Spartans were not even sleeping in their own beds, they were in casern. So it was easier and quicker to regroup army in case of invasion or attack. They were never with their women except for reproduction.

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Post by Mista » Mon Mar 12, 2007 1:03 am

I liked it. You guys expect too much.
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Post by bagheadinc » Mon Mar 12, 2007 1:08 am

[quote="Makh";p="723697"]Is it inspired of Rudolph maté movie 300 Spartans?[/quote]Yea, Frank said he was heavily inspired by Maté's movie. He also noted that his book is in no way factual; it's only based on the story of Thermopylae, not the true events that took place there. I really enjoyed it and felt it was a decent adaptation of Frank's work. I don't think the Queen's storyline was a necessary addition to the film, but I guess it would have been too short without adding something (after all, 300 is a very short book).
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Post by Blaze » Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:52 am

I just got home from seeing it tonight, and I really thought it was a lot of fun and quite inspiring. No, it wasn't EPIC. But it was pretty dang awesome!
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Post by Gouf_Custom » Mon Mar 12, 2007 4:55 am

I fully enjoyed it. I can't say as I've read the book, but the movie kept my interest, and I enjoyed the action, while it wasn't groub-braking or anything.

Not to mention the new Spider-Man 3 trailer was more than enough reason to go. I was literally squeeing throughout pretty much the entire thing.

PS: Was I the only one who saw the executioner Xerxes had to kill his failing general, and thought someone had been playing the Undead in WarCraft 3 too much?
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Post by sneaky ninja » Mon Mar 12, 2007 7:08 am

[quote="StruckingFuggle";p="723705"]Aparrently, in the world of 300, Athenians love boys, but Spartans don't. Funny, that.[/quote]

When he called the Athenians "boy lovers" I had to keep so hard from laughing. Yeeeaaaahhhh, he'd be one to talk, eh?

Anyway, it obviously reflected more North American values than ancient Greek ones, but if you can get past the rather minor historical inaccuracies and cheesy lines, it was an enjoyable movie. It wasn't supposed to be a history lesson, and I don't think it was supposed to be epic, either. Just a good ole kill-everything-that-moves kinda movie. I loved it. Sorry, lifedeath :P

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Post by StruckingFuggle » Mon Mar 12, 2007 7:29 am

Oh yeah, it was a thoroughly enjoyable movie.



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I adored the visual style of the film, too. The colors, the odd cg tint most everything had that made the whole thing seem like a dream, the progressive slowing that made things ALMOST freeze in the air and seem like a panel from a comic book, and of course, HOLY CRAP, fight scenes that don't use hyperkinetic choppy editing to make it so you can't really follow what the heck is going on.

I want to see more movies that look and (visually) flow like 300, because it set a great example.
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Post by gravity » Mon Mar 12, 2007 9:07 am

My bf and I just sort of giggled through out the entire movie, and annoyed everyone around us until they heard our comments, and then they laughed and giggled as well.

The creepy slinky thing that followed them through the Mines of Moria... err, Hell's Gate? Yeah, so not looking like Gollum, not at all. No, his hand against the tree in the early part, before he was shown, no, that didn't look like a bad Gollum attempt either! It must have been those boy loving Athenians that made it look so silly!

The chained giant thing? Yes, I honestly shouted "They have a Cave Troll!" in the theatre. Everyone in hearing distance just burst out laughing.

Me adding the missing lines from the speech at the end of the movie just finalized the wonderful joke: We few, we happy few, we band of brothers! That fought with us upon this St Crispen's Day!

Yeah... I've been told that the movie was great because of gore and CGI, but, to be honest, it didn't appeal to me CGI wise (sloooooow mmmmmooooottttiiioooon does not a movie make, especially when overused), and the blood and gore just looked silly. Give me a good Hamlet or Henry V any day of the week. Where everything doesn't look and sound cheesy, and there aren't these horribly weird scenes of lepers feeling up under aged girls. :roll:
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Post by BusteeQT » Mon Mar 12, 2007 9:09 am

[quote="bagheadinc";p="723797"]Yea, Frank said he was heavily inspired by Maté's movie. He also noted that his book is in no way factual; it's only based on the story of Thermopylae, not the true events that took place there. I really enjoyed it and felt it was a decent adaptation of Frank's work. I don't think the Queen's storyline was a necessary addition to the film, but I guess it would have been too short without adding something (after all, 300 is a very short book).[/quote]

I am so glad I read this thread before going to see this movie. Otherwise I know I would be upset with inaccuracies and such. Now that I know that it isn't intended to depict what actually happened, but uses the true events as story I won't look for the inaccuracies. I may actually go see it now (I had considered not going for fear of Hollywood ass-raping historical facts).

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Post by billf » Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:21 pm

Wow... anyone complaining about the historical inaccuracies obviously doesn't know Frank Miller's work. The man is not a historian, nor does he try to be.

I went and saw the film last night, and it was a damn good movie for what it was. A little predictable, but meh. I don't really go into action movies expecting huge plot twists.
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Post by bagheadinc » Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:10 pm

Ok, so we've seen how Zack Snyder has handled the Dawn of the Dead remake and 300, how does everyone feel about him directing Watchmen?
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