Since this is the place for rants and raves, I shall rant

[bagheadinc]

[quote="Deacon";p="726109"]I NO U R BUT WUT AM I[/quote]

[Thorsman]

[quote="Deacon";p="726109"][quote="Thorsman";p="726078"]First of all, objective criticism and intelligent disagreement isn't the same as out-and-out bashing, and the latter is what you seem fond of doing, be the views political, religious or otherwise that you don't agree with. The haughty defensiveness, in fact, comes most readily from you.[/quote]
lololol the ol' "I'm rubber, you're glue" defense is fantastic, especially as once again you have completely and totally dodged the point in order to instead attack me as an individual.

Secondly, regardless of what your beliefs are, you seem to make sport of bashing ones that aren't commonly accepted ones.

Really? One short, passing, mostly joking comment about your already suspect beliefs, and you're going to go on about how I'm "making sport of bashing ideas that aren't commonly accepted." As though "commonly accepted" has anything to do with it.

You know what? Yes, we get it. You subscribe to a silly little niche religion that apparently is picked on enough for you to have a massive hang-up about it and an easily pressed hot-button stamped on your forehead, just itching for a chance to pick a fight to defend your poor, beleaguered new-age, polytheistic, magical religion. You thought people would be cool about it and think you were cool because you're so non-conformist, or maybe not (despite what you claim), and it just hasn't worked out for you. The problem is that the more you act this way, the worse it makes you look, and the more urgent the invitations to continue and escalate the "scrutiny" you seem so pouty about being subjected to... And what's great is that you took such a small, innocuous comment and instead of having everyone rush to your side in your defense, you've simply shined a big ol' honkin' spotlight on the silliness of your stance on it and your demand that no one ever make any joke about your religion or treat it with anything but the utmost respect and reverence you seem to think it deserves. It's not a winning gambit.

If you don't know what respect and consideration of others is by your age, I'd say you're the angry little child and not I.

Not I. Not I! Not I! I NO U R BUT WUT AM I


[quote="Thorsman";p="726087"]for those of you thinking of this thread in terms of win and lose, you're missing the point of the original post. The point was to address an issue[/quote]
Even the power of the Almighty Semantics can't save that one...[/quote]

OK Deacon, saying my beliefs are "a silly little niche religion" and "already suspect" is pretty ridiculous and childish in and of itself. What's so suspect about an alternative belief system? How is it "silly"? If you've made statements like those without backing them up, you've obviously got no idea what the worldview's about. Go on and betray your own ignorance, no skin off my back.

Secondly, as I've said, I don't feel beliefs are something to joke about. I made a thread about the idea that belief-bashing IN GENERAL is something I don't like and don't think is a good idea. You've gone to the trouble of filling the blank in for me that I'm just showcasing my beliefs. Guess what: you're wrong. Oh dear. How sad. Nevermind.

Thirdly, projection isn't your strongsuit. You claim I'm getting pouty, and yet you're devoting entire essay-length responses as to how I'm supposedly wrong for posting what I said. Again, I say: Oh dear. How sad. Nevermind.

On a final note, let's take your "what's so respectable about your beliefs" to an extreme. What's respectable about any beliefs? What makes some mock-worthy and others not? To an atheist, your beliefs are just as suspect and mock-worthy as mine or anyone else's are. If one belief isn't worthy of respect, then none are really. At the end of the day they're all unprovable worldviews. So shall we continue hurling insults (some in jest, some not) at one another's beliefs, or shall we have at least a modicum of respect for one another's beliefs?

[Deacon]

[quote="Thorsman";p="726117"]OK Deacon, saying my beliefs are "a silly little niche religion" and "already suspect" is pretty ridiculous and childish in and of itself.[/quote]
I guess you're either going to have to actually develop a sense of humor or stop taking it quite so seriously, then. It's your continued reaction that's ridiculous and, yes, a little childish. Congratulations on successfully dodging each and every point made, by the way. "Never give in! Never surrender!" Fantastic.

Secondly, as I've said, I don't feel beliefs are something to joke about.

And it's been made clear what everyone else thinks about your tender heart. Suck it up and move on.

Ironic/hypocritical statement number 235803:

Guess what: you're wrong. Oh dear. How sad. Nevermind.

Thirdly, projection isn't your strongsuit.

This is at least the second time you've said that in this thread alone, and to different people, at that. Strongsuits obviously arent your strongsuit. In fact, I'm not sure you have a strongsuit. Unless maybe your strongsuit is hiding your strongsuit. Strongsuit strongsuit strongsuit. Psychology, at least, certainly isn't your strongsuit.

Oop! Increment that previous number! Ironic/hypocritical statement number 235804:

you're devoting entire essay-length responses as to how I'm supposedly wrong for posting what I said. Again, I say: Oh dear. How sad. Nevermind.

Rapid-fire time!

What's respectable about any beliefs?
Nothing is beyond question, scrutiny, and jokes.

What makes some mock-worthy and others not?
How have you not gotten this yet? There are none that are immune to question, scrutiny, and jokes!

To an atheist, your beliefs are just as suspect and mock-worthy as mine or anyone else's are.
You don't even know what my beliefs are, but the answer is that yes, everyone's is open to question, scrutiny, and jokes, even the atheist!

If one belief isn't worthy of respect, then none are really.
Well if there's anything that's been determined here today, it's that you aren't worthy of "respect" and that your idea of "respect" is suspect in and of itself. Any default worthiness has been forfeited.

At the end of the day they're all unprovable worldviews.
And all open to questions, scrutiny, and jokes.

So shall we continue hurling insults (some in jest, some not) at one another's beliefs, or shall we have at least a modicum of respect for one another's beliefs?

Your beliefs fill me with morbid amusement and health-endangering amounts of eye-rolling. Don't you have some religious LARPing to do?

[bagheadinc]

[quote="Thorsman";p="726117"]At the end of the day they're all unprovable worldviews.[/quote]Exactly...it's your belief, just as it may be someone else's belief that yours is silly. You keep saying we should respect each other's beliefs, but then chastise those who believe another's person's beliefs aren't as good as theirs.

[Thorsman]

[quote="Deacon";p="726119"][quote="Thorsman";p="726117"]OK Deacon, saying my beliefs are "a silly little niche religion" and "already suspect" is pretty ridiculous and childish in and of itself.[/quote]
I guess you're either going to have to actually develop a sense of humor or stop taking it quite so seriously, then. It's your continued reaction that's ridiculous and, yes, a little childish. Congratulations on successfully dodging each and every point made, by the way. "Never give in! Never surrender!" Fantastic.

Secondly, as I've said, I don't feel beliefs are something to joke about.

And it's been made clear what everyone else thinks about your tender heart. Suck it up and move on.

Ironic/hypocritical statement number 235803:

Guess what: you're wrong. Oh dear. How sad. Nevermind.

Thirdly, projection isn't your strongsuit.

This is at least the second time you've said that in this thread alone, and to different people, at that. Strongsuits obviously arent your strongsuit. In fact, I'm not sure you have a strongsuit. Unless maybe your strongsuit is hiding your strongsuit. Strongsuit strongsuit strongsuit. Psychology, at least, certainly isn't your strongsuit.

Oop! Increment that previous number! Ironic/hypocritical statement number 235804:

you're devoting entire essay-length responses as to how I'm supposedly wrong for posting what I said. Again, I say: Oh dear. How sad. Nevermind.

Rapid-fire time!

What's respectable about any beliefs?
Nothing is beyond question, scrutiny, and jokes.

What makes some mock-worthy and others not?
How have you not gotten this yet? There are none that are immune to question, scrutiny, and jokes!

To an atheist, your beliefs are just as suspect and mock-worthy as mine or anyone else's are.
You don't even know what my beliefs are, but the answer is that yes, everyone's is open to question, scrutiny, and jokes, even the atheist!

If one belief isn't worthy of respect, then none are really.
Well if there's anything that's been determined here today, it's that you aren't worthy of "respect" and that your idea of "respect" is suspect in and of itself. Any default worthiness has been forfeited.

At the end of the day they're all unprovable worldviews.
And all open to questions, scrutiny, and jokes.

So shall we continue hurling insults (some in jest, some not) at one another's beliefs, or shall we have at least a modicum of respect for one another's beliefs?

Your beliefs fill me with morbid amusement and health-endangering amounts of eye-rolling. Don't you have some religious LARPing to do?[/quote]

I didn't do any dodging at all, first off. I just didn't give answers you liked. Big difference there.

And no, I don't have some religious LARPing to do, but you certainly have some religious education to do. What do you really know about Asatru if you're making a statement like that? Do you even know what the basic premises of Norse reconstruction are? I have my doubts about your knowledge of the Norse worldview if you use terms like "New Age" and "magical" to describe it. In plain English, you're talking out of ignorance.

On a similar note, you're quick to talk about my beliefs, and yet you don't state what yours are. Come on Deacon, tell the people (unless, of course, you're afraid to say). If you really believe that all beliefs should be subject to scrutiny and ridicule, then state your own (no, not so I can "bash" them, I'd just like to see you put your money where your mouth is).

No hypocrisy at all in what I've said. You just don't like it, and you're going to foolish lengths to bash it. You carry on, and I'll carry on showing you where you're wrong.

[Terrene]

You're dumb and you pick and choose your religion based solely on cool-factor.

[bagheadinc]

Why do people feel the need to quote entire posts instead of the parts they are referring to? I believe that is stupid.

This seems to be happening a lot lately

[Thorsman]

[quote="Terrene";p="726124"]You're dumb and you pick and choose your religion based solely on cool-factor.[/quote]

Nice attempt at baiting me, but it didn't work. You'll find your consolation prize somewhere in the garage.

[bagheadinc]

Perhaps Loki is using this thread to have a bit of fun at your expense.

[Thorsman]

Har har!

[Terrene]

Well I've figured it out now. You're an attention whore. "I'm a heathen! I'm so special I will mention it at every oppurtunity and name myself after it and base my sig and avatar on it and everything. And then I'll act incredibly wanky."

[StruckingFuggle]

Then what's that make you, Baghead, Deacon, Wocket, etc? Attention Johns? :p

[Terrene]

People looking for a laugh.

[Thorsman]

[quote="Terrene";p="726132"]Well I've figured it out now. You're an attention whore. "I'm a heathen! I'm so special I will mention it at every oppurtunity and name myself after it and base my sig and avatar on it and everything. And then I'll act incredibly wanky."[/quote]

Oh yes, I MUST be an attention whore because I happen to have the name Thorsman

*clap clap* Nice one! Too bad you've only drawn a faulty conclusion instead of figuring anything out. You get a gold star for effort, though.

[Terrene]

I mean, I usually try to avoid feeding attention whores, but I'm sure he'll go away soon and right now this thread is funny.