What would you do? 2 questions.

[Blaze]

Your fault for not reading what you post.

He's a sly devil, he is.

[Rancod]

Personally, I would be VERY leery of "no money down" loans - more often than not, you take financial beating compared to a traditional "20% down loan". I'm not saying don't do it, but be very careful.. The question is, A) How bad do you want the place, and B) how long would it take you to make a down payment? Have you talked to a financial counselor yet?

As for the redhead - my advice? Ask some "innocent" questions that may give you a clue.. This way you get to figure out if there's possibly more, without risking a good friendship. In alot of ways, this may make the best relationship - you'd be amazed at how many couples love each other, but don't like each other.

And oh, I wholeheartedly endorse Adciv sticking it in Sophira's pooper - serves her right for not reading!


HTRN

A. First place I have ever been in that says "I'm Home" and I have lived in 7 states, multiple houses. Right price, right neighborhood, and no forseeible issues in the comming years.

B. If I wait to purchase with a down payment, it’s a max of 6 months, and no.

With the red head, I sort of took it into another direction that seemed quite devious at that time, instead of letting her put me into the friends zone, I quickly punted her into it with a simple note, explaining that yes she is attractive, that indeed I have always had a crush on her, as well as Sandra Bulloch (in which to say its irrelevant) and that I value the evil insights I can garner with a spy in the girls camp. This is meant to reverse the traditional role of the guy winning the girl. She is used to men falling over her, so to have a challenge may prove fruitful.

Why a note? It's the usual form of communication due to work, projects, or other circumstances for both people. Hey what ever works.

[adciv]

"beware of beautiful women," for they wield a power we can never have and will never understand, and few things are beyond their grasp.

I find this strangely appropriate right now.

[Spongiform]

Rancod, she might just take it at face value and not be interested.

[cavedog]

1. Get your own place. Do whatever you have to do, but be on your own.

2. Go for it. Don't spend a whole lot of time telling her how you feel and talking about crap. Take her out and make it a date. Make eye contact with her, advance on her. Hold her hand from across the table. Gently. If she doesn't mind, then find an excuse to get up from the table, returning to sit beside her. Read the signs. If she pushes you away, that means no. It also means that you need to look for someone else. Otherwise, you will be just another spear carrier that she is holding in reserve. Don't be metro, be hetro.

[NotQuiteDead]

Don't be metro, be hetro.

Seconded. Too many people nowadays are dancing around what they want, rather than GOING FOR IT. This is the answer to both questions, in my opinion. Just do your homework--on both issues--and make an informed decision.

[Rancod]

Well I have gone from a time table of 6 months for a house, to 1 month for a house or an apartment, roommate is moving out.
Things not good.

[Roberpb0270]

2. Stick it in her pooper.

Fuck you, Adciv.

another way to say this, PIHB
or
Pee In Her Butt

[Mav]

Only pee in her butt if you're truly serious about the relationship and wish to marry her.

[Rancod]

Only pee in her butt if you're truly serious about the relationship and wish to marry her.

Or are really drunk, This one time, I...

Anyhow, found a place, it looks like a barn, but the price is excellent, now to take a tour.

[Arres]

If it looks like a barn and the price is excellent, it's probably a barn.

[Mav]

After further deep reconsideration of the situation at hand, I also may suggest doing a barell roll.

[Roberpb0270]

a flaming barrel roll

[Rancod]

Well 1 month has turned into 7 weeks, I must supply my Landloard with a written letter of intent 30 days before I move, as well as having the carpets cleaned. Easy enough, I just wish she did the same before I had moved in. Oh well.

The barn needs 30k in work, and due to rats, is quite uninhabital.

As far as the girl goes, I have not heard hide nor hair of her for a week, and I find that I could care less. Between housing, and this upcoming week is going to be something short of a disaster, I have no time for romance. Rancod is unhappy.



Huzah

[eisblitz]

no money down loans are really simple, it just means that instead of reducing your finance cost, you're just increasing it by not paying something up front. but you also have to look at the APR on it. is it really worth what you could possibly be paying in interest by doing it the "easy way" and not having a down payment? of course in some areas of the world, a down payment for someone making less than $100/yr. is almost impossible. But moving in with your dad is probably the (if you can stand it) best thing financially. yeh, loads of girls might not like the idea, but don't go with those types. they're obviously not what you want if they can't understand what your goal is.

with the friend, i would ask her if she's at all willing to take it to another level, but try to read her and decide if her personality is such that you can either stab her with the question or beat a tree/shrub for a few weeks. some people maybe just aren't ready for a commitment, not that they're afraid of it or anything, but they might have (yeh this again) gotten out of something bad an want some time to spend with themselves, and jumping out on her dating you is maybe just a way to hang out and know that she can go out with someone without dating them or in a relationship. since you're ready and she doesn't seem to be, don't make a move until she's ready. remember it's her turn to make the move.

sometimes you have to do research and think about it, and sometimes you have to just decide that the more thinking you do is putting your further from your goal, just do it!