You've just become President! How do you stock your Cabinet?

Perspectives on our world and our universe, how it works, what is happening, and why it happens. Whether by a hidden hand or natural laws, we come together to hash it out, and perhaps provide a little bit of education and enlightenment for others. This is a place for civil discussion. Please keep it that way.
Forum rules
1) Remain civil. Respect others' rights to their viewpoints, even if you believe them to be completely wrong.
2) Sourcing your information is highly recommended. Plagiarism will get you banned.
3) Please create a new thread for a new topic, even if you think it might not get a lot of responses. Do not create mega-threads.
4) If you think the subject of a thread is not important enough to merit a post, simply avoid posting in it. If enough people agree, it will fall off the page soon enough.
User avatar
Kits
Redshirt
Posts: 3225
Joined: Wed Oct 22, 2003 4:35 pm
Location: Atlanta
Contact:

Re: You've just become President! How do you stock your Cabinet?

Post by Kits » Wed Feb 06, 2008 5:13 pm

naval_aviator_2040 wrote:I Believe it McGarry and the rules stated that they have to be alive. they didn't say anything about fictional charachters though so I'd have Dirk Pitt as the Secretary of Commerce
Yeah...it's called a joke...
Image

User avatar
naval_aviator_2040
Redshirt
Posts: 651
Joined: Thu Dec 02, 2004 4:52 am
Gender: Male
Location: NY Capital region
Contact:

Re: You've just become President! How do you stock your Cabinet?

Post by naval_aviator_2040 » Wed Feb 06, 2008 5:39 pm

KitsuneMusume wrote:
naval_aviator_2040 wrote:I Believe it McGarry and the rules stated that they have to be alive. they didn't say anything about fictional charachters though so I'd have Dirk Pitt as the Secretary of Commerce
Yeah...it's called a joke...
my mistake. Its been a while since I've been on
i don't hate everyone equally, there are levels. but none of them are the traditionally thought of standards for predjudice. its not based on race, religion, gender, or sexual orientation its based on how much the person annoys me personally. i count you as a friend since you annoy me very little. brittney spears is an enemy because even though i don't know her/care about her at all she still finds a way to annoy me every time i turn on the tv

User avatar
Arc Orion
Redshirt
Posts: 11967
Joined: Sun Oct 26, 2003 7:27 am
Real Name: Christopher
Gender: Male
Location: Tacoma, WA
Contact:

Re: You've just become President! How do you stock your Cabinet?

Post by Arc Orion » Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:11 pm

It's been a while since you've heard a joke?
I need fewer water.

User avatar
The Cid
Redshirt
Posts: 7150
Joined: Fri Nov 05, 2004 12:23 pm
Real Name: Tim Williams
Gender: Male
Location: The Suncoast
Contact:

Re: You've just become President! How do you stock your Cabinet?

Post by The Cid » Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:29 pm

For most positions, I don't really have someone in mind, but I'll at least give a profile, often a fictional character, to give you some kind of idea or caricature.

Vice President - I'm a Libertarian. My VP? Probably not going to be a Libertarian. I would want somebody I respect to be my second-in-command, but the last thing I want is to have a bunch of "yes men" around me to say my every whim is a good idea and good for the nation. I'd likely seek out a long-standing senator or representative that has a history of cooperating with other parties. A sort of "reality monitor" if you will. This would help to ensure the cooperation I would need to get whatever I promised in the election done.

Secretary of State - This is where you look for the most respectable statesman available. What I'm looking for is a SoS that can talk to anybody. I don't care about the party affiliation, and I'd likely start my search far outside of the field of politics. If shit were to hit the fan, my Secretary of State should be the person screaming out to let cooler heads prevail. Someone who can act as an excellent representative of not just my administration, but the nation as a whole.

Secretary of Commerce: Warren Buffett - This is the easiest choice out there IMO. Buffett has made his career out of evaluating businesses and knowing what it takes for a business to succeed. Combine that with his knowledge of market factors, and I just don't see where this guy can go wrong. If anybody can help a boom in American commerce, it's Warren Buffett.

Secretary of the Treasury - Now that our Secretary of Commerce is set, we need someone who can help preside over those markets. What we need in this position is our best economist. You can bet I'd be looking at our most respected economics professors as well as the world's foremost economic analysts. This is, however, where I start to become more partisan. I'm also looking for a Secretary of the Treasury that is in full support of a laissez-faire approach to the economy; one who is all for scaling down government power--especially when it comes to the economy.

Secretary of Education - I need a revolutionary. I need a brilliant, enthusiastic teacher who can figure out a nearly impossible riddle regarding how to improve this system. I need one that has children, who have actually been through the public school system in America mind you, but I do NOT want someone to tell parents how to parent their kids. I cannot stress enough, this is the most important position in any cabinet of mine. Let's make things so good that we all envy our children.

Attorney General: Ted from Scrubs - President Cid will not be kind to litigators. I want lawyers in America to have less power than teachers. I want them to have less power than used car salesmen! So I do not want a powerful attorney to become the AG. I do not want an experienced attorney to become the AG. I want a sniveling weasel that nobody pays a lick of attention to. Let's let the judges deal with the law--it's not the Executive Branch's job IMO.

Secretary of Homeland Security: Jack Bauer - This is how I'd get elected: cost-cutting measures. Instead of having an entire department looking for America's unseen enemies, I'll just pay one amazing badass and his staff of like five people. (Okay, just kidding on these last two. I WOULD like a powerless Attorney General though, and my real SHS will use every reasonable measure to find threats and eliminate them while keeping a close eye on the ethical consequences of those measures.)

Secretary of Defense - A respected General/Admiral, preferably one who fought in war and knows both the occasional necessity and also the horrible effect of war. I think of it this way: nobody's going to be more judicious with when to strike than someone who has been in the thick of it. I've never been. The vast majority of people I'd surround myself haven't been either. And I would never want to be caught with my pants down when it came to being a Commander in Chief.
Image
Hirschof wrote:I'm waiting for day you people start thinking with portals.

User avatar
StruckingFuggle
Redshirt
Posts: 22166
Joined: Sun Jun 15, 2003 6:18 pm
Gender: Male
Location: Austin / San Marcos, Tx

Re: You've just become President! How do you stock your Cabinet?

Post by StruckingFuggle » Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:06 pm

... awesome. Thank you, The Cid.

Edit: And everyone else who gave a serious reply, too.
"He who lives by the sword dies by my arrow."

"In your histories, there are continual justifications for all manner of hellish actions. Claims of nobility and heritage and honor to cover up every bit of genocide, assassination, and massacre. At least the Horde is honest in their naked lust for power."

User avatar
collegestudent22
Redshirt
Posts: 6886
Joined: Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:02 am
Gender: Male
Location: Gallifrey

Re: You've just become President! How do you stock your Cabinet?

Post by collegestudent22 » Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:20 am

The Cid wrote: I think of it this way: nobody's going to be more judicious with when to strike than someone who has been in the thick of it.
Then you are an idiot. Remember MacArthur?
Frédéric Bastiat wrote:And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works.
Count Axel Oxenstierna wrote:Dost thou not know, my son, with how little wisdom the world is governed?

User avatar
naval_aviator_2040
Redshirt
Posts: 651
Joined: Thu Dec 02, 2004 4:52 am
Gender: Male
Location: NY Capital region
Contact:

Re: You've just become President! How do you stock your Cabinet?

Post by naval_aviator_2040 » Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:24 pm

Arc Orion wrote:It's been a while since you've heard a joke?
its been a while since i've been on the forum so i still have to get used to the sense of humor again. there's not a lot of humor at my school unless we're drunk. otherwise we just hate everyone
i don't hate everyone equally, there are levels. but none of them are the traditionally thought of standards for predjudice. its not based on race, religion, gender, or sexual orientation its based on how much the person annoys me personally. i count you as a friend since you annoy me very little. brittney spears is an enemy because even though i don't know her/care about her at all she still finds a way to annoy me every time i turn on the tv

User avatar
Rorschach
The Immoral Immortal
Posts: 17760
Joined: Tue Feb 18, 2003 7:35 am
Gender: Male
Location: Glasgow, Scotland

Re: You've just become President! How do you stock your Cabinet?

Post by Rorschach » Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:37 pm

Why no Secretary of Partying Down?

Image
To Let

User avatar
Arc Orion
Redshirt
Posts: 11967
Joined: Sun Oct 26, 2003 7:27 am
Real Name: Christopher
Gender: Male
Location: Tacoma, WA
Contact:

Re: You've just become President! How do you stock your Cabinet?

Post by Arc Orion » Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:21 pm

naval_aviator_2040 wrote:there's not a lot of humor at my school unless we're drunk. otherwise we just hate everyone
Wait, how is that different from here?
I need fewer water.

User avatar
Martin Blank
Knower of Things
Knower of Things
Posts: 12709
Joined: Fri Feb 07, 2003 4:11 am
Real Name: Jarrod Frates
Gender: Male
Location: Dallas, TX
Contact:

Re: You've just become President! How do you stock your Cabinet?

Post by Martin Blank » Sat Feb 16, 2008 6:32 pm

The Cid wrote:Let's let the judges deal with the law--it's not the Executive Branch's job IMO.
It absolutely is the Executive Branch's job to deal with the law. Legislative Branch writes the laws, the Executive Branch enforces it, and the Judicial Branch ensures that justice is meted out fairly. Attorneys are separate from the Judicial Branch because it preserves the balance of power.

A proper AG is one that will tell the president when something is illegal, and who is capable of ensuring that whatever investigations have to be made of the Executive Branch will happen impartially, even if it means impeachment and removal from office of the very president that appointed the AG in the first place. There is no position in the cabinet that should be more independent of and capable of standing up to the president than the AG.
If I show up at your door, chances are you did something to bring me there.

User avatar
Deacon
Shining Adonis
Posts: 44234
Joined: Wed Jul 30, 2003 3:00 pm
Gender: Male
Location: Lakehills, TX

Re: You've just become President! How do you stock your Cabinet?

Post by Deacon » Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:24 pm

Heh, I read that bit you quoted and thought to myself, "Wait, isn't that the definition of the executive branch??"
The follies which a man regrets the most in his life are those which he didn't commit when he had the opportunity. - Helen Rowland, A Guide to Men, 1922

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest