2008 Apr 3 - 2001 aftermath

[Aerdan]

About all I can say about Mr Jordan is that he's really good at telling the same story 10 different ways...without his readers figuring it out.

[delney]

Robert Jordan (FINALLY)

/me winces

I'm sorry.

QFT

And, you'll love Lonesome Dove. The miniseries wasn't half bad either. I bought the DVD. Then again, I've got a bit of Robert Duvall <3, though, and Tommy Lee Jones kicks butt. Just about everyone was in it. Let me know if you want to borrow once you read the book, now that you're local, Dreamer.

[Steave]

About all I can say about Mr Jordan is that he's really good at telling the same story 10 different ways...without his readers figuring it out.

That's because he wanted to end it at book five or six and his wife and publisher convinced him to drag it out longer. My advice is to read the first book and pretend that they win absolutely at the end and stop there.

Am I totally shallow for thinking that Terminator 2: Director's Cut was one of the best SciFi movies of all time?

You've got to be kidding me right? Am I the only one who just wanted to punch Edward Furlong in the face the whole way through?

[jmorris9999]

I'd like to add Starship Troopers to the list of must-see sci-fi movies. It's one of my favorites.

You just lost all credibility. It was one of the worst sci-fi movies ever. They butchered the book, the story, the plot and raped the whole idea behind it. The writers should be executed and the producers bared from Hollywood. Every change they made in it was for the worse. Which means they probably won an emmy and are on Hollywoods shortlist. F'in idiots.

And even if that hadn't been true, it was the most arsine military operation that ever existed. I could have defeated their entire force with my rifle platoon, an infantry company would have been overkill.

[adciv]

Yes, where as the roughnecks from the book could wipe out a brigade in five minutes (if that).

[StruckingFuggle]

Seriously, what kind of operation was it, with no artillery, not even any sort of turrets, no air support, nothing?

[Accer]

Am I totally shallow for thinking that Terminator 2: Director's Cut was one of the best SciFi movies of all time?

I'm trying to think of a sci-fi movie I like better, and so far I can't.

About all I can say about Mr Jordan is that he's really good at telling the... story

No... no he's not.

[collegestudent22]

About all I can say about Mr Jordan is that he's really good at telling the same story 10 different ways...without his readers figuring it out.

Well, not ANYMORE.....

[adciv]

Seriously, what kind of operation was it, with no artillery, not even any sort of turrets, no air support, nothing?

Can you clarify which you are asking this about?

[FireAza]

One thing that I took back from watching 2001 was the scene at the start with the monkeys. For a while I was perplexed as to whether they were real monkeys or guys in suits. Then when the "monkeys" started jumping about, showing their long legs, the cat was out of the bag.

[StruckingFuggle]

Adciv: The movie.

[schwal]

I completely agree about I Robot, Jurassic Park and Starship Troopers. Decent cheesy movies, much better books. Especially I Robot.

[schwal]

Still! That sounds interesting, and I would like to see it at some time. I may have to take you up on this movie thing, may as well spread some obscure movies I love like Le Dernier Combat and The City of Lost Children around while I'm seeing movies I mean to see, anyway...

I just saw The City of Lost Children today, and I rely liked it. It reminded me of Bioshock with the steampunk atmosphere and child kidnapping. (i found out about it throught Zero Punctuation)

[jmorris9999]

Seriously, what kind of operation was it, with no artillery, not even any sort of turrets, no air support, nothing?

Can you clarify which you are asking this about?

I'd say that was a rhetorical question. He's continuing the "militarily, it was a POS" line. The Mobile Infantry suits replaced tanks, armored personnel carries, close air support, artillery support, etc. If you don't use the suits, then you need the other things. They had nothing, except POS wonder guns.

Even such a basic thing as the transport ships. The bugs have anti-space defenses (well, bugs that shit plasma fire anyway) so you're going to park your ships in orbit and wait for them to be blasted? ARRRRRRG!

[adciv]

I wasn't sure if he was talking about the SST book, SST movie or one of the others that had cropped up in here. I remember that part of the book. Yeah, they had jack for equipment. We could have done better with todays technology than they did. Body armor and a gun was all they had. In the book, they had full combat suits that carried around 1/4kton hand grenades.