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Grumlen · Post by **Grumlen** » Wed Jun 11, 2003 4:56 am

Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of not having them kill me anytime soon. You know, a peace offering so I can have peace of mind.

spoon · Post by **spoon** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 1:32 am

And nice try, Spoon, but you're quoting out of context.

was not!

AnG3l_oF_D3AtH · Post by **AnG3l_oF_D3AtH** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 6:06 am

I have a question for all those people who bleieve in god here.

How do you know that the bible is true. Its a book thats supposodly 5000 years old. What atopped it from being written by a guy who just sat down one day and said. 'Hey! I have a cool idea! I'll create a false religion and make some fake evidence! It would be so funny if people believed in it". What stopped it from being a nutcase who wrote down these things because of voices in his head. What stops the thing from being fake

Post by **Martin Blank** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 6:22 am

The Old Testament is made up of books written over the course of about 2000 years by various authors.

The New Testament is made up of books and letters written by numerous authors over the course of a couple of hundred years.

There is ample archaeological evidence for both. Whether you believe it is divine or not, there is more than enough evidence to show that it has many authors and the material was written over a wide period of time.

AnG3l_oF_D3AtH · Post by **AnG3l_oF_D3AtH** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 6:23 am

But is there evidence to prove that what written is divine and from the gods?

Goku · Post by **Goku** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 6:43 am

Thats a question you your self have to ask yourself...I mean....it means many different things to different people....so...yea....whatever I guess...

Mr.Shroom · Post by **Mr.Shroom** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 10:20 am

The common argument is faith, Angel. However, thats not the best. Since its obvious few people actually bother to LEARN about the topics they talk about...

There was this fellow by the title of Saint Thomas Aquinas. He has, to DATE, given the best points to your questions in his work titled the 'Summa Theologia' on this issue. It is not a dry read at all, and it's structure is quite brilliantly placed so even a layman can observe and ponder upon his points made.

He ultimatly makes 3 main points in this text, all of which adress your questions. They are made QUITE plain. Since I honestly want to see if you're just a senseless troll or an educated person who wants to learn, I will NOT directly quote or sum up this source, and instead demand that you go out and read the damn thing yourself.

Do post back if you find it. Might even be a copy online in html\pdf form.

SothThe69th · Post by **SothThe69th** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 10:26 am

http://www.newadvent.org/summa/

Start readin'.

Mr.Shroom · Post by **Mr.Shroom** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 10:42 am

Nice. Took me a minute to realize they had cross-referenced everything. But the reason I like books is because its easyer for me to mark and reference things.

At least focus on the parts where Aquinas adresses what sort of teaching Christian theology is and what it covers. Where ever the heck that is on this damn website...books will never die.

Edit: Ah, found it using my own books as a guide. Read 'Secunda Secundæ Partis' on that website.

SothThe69th · Post by **SothThe69th** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 11:44 am

I wish it was on Project Gutenberg, but such was not to be :\

AnG3l_oF_D3AtH · Post by **AnG3l_oF_D3AtH** » Fri Jun 13, 2003 9:38 am

He has, to DATE, given the best points to your questions in his work titled the 'Summa Theologia' on this issue

Hmm, never heard of that one before. I mainly read law and history books though, not ones on theology

Mr.Shroom · Post by **Mr.Shroom** » Sat Jun 14, 2003 12:44 am

...then why did you enter a conversation dealing with theology, whichout having some basic understanding of the ideas and sides behind it?

Grumlen · Post by **Grumlen** » Sun Jun 15, 2003 3:15 am

Because everybody is an expert on theology. Didn't you know that?

SothThe69th · Post by **SothThe69th** » Sun Jun 15, 2003 3:22 am

Not expertise, opinion. Opinions are like assholes, everyones got one and they all stink.

Goku · Post by **Goku** » Sun Jun 15, 2003 4:06 am

opinions make us human...means we can think for our selves...it make stink...but right now its all we've got for the freedom of thought.

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