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Palin E-mails Hacked

Post by ILurker » Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:55 pm

Looks like 4chan managed to grab some more publicity in compromising Gov. Palin's yahoo acct. Right now wikileaks is combing through it for anything potentially interesting, but it's significant as there have been accusations of her using private e-mail to conduct government business, something which is potentially illegal and might be construed as an effort to block the Troopergate investigations.

Gawker has a writeup on it, and Wikileaks has some of the e-mails, but they are being pounded pretty hard right now.

Amusingly, one of the people who did it appear to have taken a screenshot of them with their Steam ID in it, so I would expect charges to be filed eventually.
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Re: Palin E-mails Hacked

Post by adciv » Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:21 pm

Given that from what can be seen, nothing in there was government related, I'll take that bet.
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Post by collegestudent22 » Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:41 pm

ILurker wrote: something which is potentially illegal and might be construed as an effort to block the Troopergate investigations.
You do realize that from her government email account, all the emails in there mentioned other problems with the commissioner she fired in that "scandal" and he was fired for not doing his job, which was essentially to help her. (He was going behind her back on a lot of issues, and things like that.)
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Post by ILurker » Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:13 pm

To be entirely honest I haven't really followed the investigation, so I couldn't comment.
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Post by Hirschof » Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:20 pm

From what I can see there really isn't anything there to press charges on. Now if there was an email discussing the sale/purchase of something then all of this would mean something.

Would of been great to see the country lose its damn mind if there were porn related e-mails sitting in the inbox.

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Re: Palin E-mails Hacked

Post by ILurker » Thu Sep 18, 2008 6:01 pm

Several of the addresses in the contact list belonged to aides, and there has been statements on record that Palin's administration had explored the implications of using private e-mail correspondance to avoid FOI requests and subpeonas, but that "nothing important" was done via them. Additionally, the subject lines in the screenshot showed titles such as "Draft letter to Governor Schwarzenegger/Container Tax", "CONFIDENTIAL Ethics Matter", "FW: Motor Fuel Tax Suspension", and several instances of DPS, the acronym for Alaska's Department of Public Safety, which supervises state troopers.

Of course, the contents of these haven't been divulged yet, and they are still open to accusations of forgery, though some of the e-mails have been confirmed to have been sent by their recipients, and the McCain campaign have stated that the address did belong to Palin, urging anyone in possession of them to delete the mails and honour Palin's privacy.
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Re: Palin E-mails Hacked

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Here's a (bad) shop of how to fake a subject line.
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Post by StruckingFuggle » Thu Sep 18, 2008 8:43 pm

ILurker wrote:Several of the addresses in the contact list belonged to aides, and there has been statements on record that Palin's administration had explored the implications of using private e-mail correspondance to avoid FOI requests and subpeonas, but that "nothing important" was done via them.
"Yet".

Exploring it as an option, if they intend to exploit it, rather than close it off, is an absolutely awful thing for an elected official to be doing, and I hope that that's somehow against the law. Conspiracy to commit criminal conspiracy, perhaps? Hm. I dunno. But it's certainly troublesome.

Gotta love the hate Republicans have for government transparency, honesty, and accountability. And I'm sure the Democrats don't like it, either, but either they hate it less or just don't get caught so much.
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Re: Palin E-mails Hacked

Post by adciv » Thu Sep 18, 2008 8:56 pm

Think about it this way, when was the last time a Democrat ever ordered an investigation into a Democrat? When was the last time before that?
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Re: Palin E-mails Hacked

Post by collegestudent22 » Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:14 pm

adciv wrote:Think about it this way, when was the last time a Democrat ever ordered an investigation into a Democrat? When was the last time before that?
They do that?
using private e-mail correspondance to avoid FOI requests and subpeonas
And how would that work? What exactly would be accomplished? I mean, in the case of subpoenas, wouldn't it be just avoiding it if something had been done and someone needed to subpoena the documents? In which case, a criminal investigation would easily be able to get a subpoena for the personal email documents.

And for the FOI requests. What information would you want to keep from a FOI request by putting it in a LESS SECURE public channel?
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Re: Palin E-mails Hacked

Post by ampersand » Fri Sep 19, 2008 12:34 am

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Re: Palin E-mails Hacked

Post by StruckingFuggle » Fri Sep 19, 2008 3:23 am

how many republican-on-republican investigations in the last, oh ... well, since Watergate - have brought real wrongdoing to light?

Hm. I may have a quest...
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Re: Palin E-mails Hacked

Post by adciv » Fri Sep 19, 2008 3:40 am

I can remember one just recently in Maryland at the state legislature level, trying to find a link. Now, will you answer my question?
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Re: Palin E-mails Hacked

Post by StruckingFuggle » Fri Sep 19, 2008 4:10 am

I don't know.

But I doubt the integrity of many to all of the republican ones, and they were probably dog and pony shows.

And that doesn't change the fact that many of the information-monkeying-with scandals - Attorneygate, Watergate, I'm sure I'm forgetting a few, Iran-Contra ... fear of transparency and of documents being accessable and seen seems to be linked pretty strongly with the Republicans. Sure, maybe they just get caught, because all politicians are varying degrees of scum, but it doesn't change the fact that for anyone, regardless of party, to be looking to get around FOI and subpoenas is a bad thing and definitely a bad sign.
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Re: Palin E-mails Hacked

Post by adciv » Fri Sep 19, 2008 3:37 pm

If a dog and pony show is where the guy is actually indicted and charged for felonies, I'll take it over the lack of Democrat investigations any day. Again, when was the last time you can remember Democrats ordering and investigation of Democrats?
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