Once again I'm left feeling similar, yet in a completly different realm at the same time. All of my abilities seem to be stronger foccused in reality, running along the lines of body energy and added strength when needed, or reflexes, and heightened senses/alertness. I also tend to develope silent communication bonds with people I have been around quite some time, but I suppose thats standard.
Closer to StarWars than the Xmen.
Astral Projection
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Eihger
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My friend says hes done the astro projection thing(bull) but If it is true then don't get touched he said its like some one grabing your neck and slamming you back to reality.
"Water is fluid, soft, and yielding. But water will wear away rock which is rigid and cannot yield. As a rule, whatever is fluid, soft, and yielding will overcome whatever is rigid and hard. This is another paradox: whatever is soft is strong."
~Lao Tzu
People are catastrophically stupid; persons are intriguingly smart
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~Lao Tzu
People are catastrophically stupid; persons are intriguingly smart
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Wow Mav... your not a person I would have expected to have enhanced themselfs thru their energy and aura. ( at least how I put it)I'm impressed.
ok let me see if I can tackle a few of those questions.
"Why does it happen by accident and how do you will it to happen?" this covers part of your first question too..
It can happen accidentally if your closer to sleep, or drowsy, or are mentally in a lethargic state of mind( bored). I dont know why it happens accidentally only that it happens more often accidentally when you are like that.. ( Ive only been doing this for around 2 years.. so I dont have all the answers.)
How do you will it to happen? well it does take some practice. At first it was meditation to control and manipulate my aura. and I didnt start out with projection. I started out with 'seeing' things from fatr away. I would send only a peice of myself elsewhere to watch something. but I was never leaving my body to do it. Ive found in order to full astral project I have to pulll all the energy/ my aura. out from where it is on my body and once its all been drained from my body ( it feels like your body falls asleep bit by bit. like when your foot falls asleep only alot more numbing)I have more freedom of movement in that plane. I do have to say that something like the matrix does happen. If you are to look at your astral form( though its more of a feel of what you are) it is your residual self image... possably not what you look like in real life but what you wish you looked like. But diferent people do it diferent ways.
"If you're leaving your body, couldn't somebody come by and take your body, leaving you floating in space? You say it's dangerous. What could happen to you? "
Ive never heard of it happening but I suppose its possable if the person was powerful enough.. I always leave alittle peice of myself in my body to keep conciousness ( though limited in my body) on both planes.
As for it being dangerious... once you start exploring the world you make yourself known to things around you. there are other people out there. But there is also life out there. Astral beings are not uncommon and most are harmless little creatures.( alot are pretty cute too) Its another world we are talking about... and there are preditors and prey just like here. And then there are spirits ( I dont know what to really classify them as) same thing goes.. some are malignant, some are neutral, some are friendly.. I can go on and on about the diferent things out there. But I will wrap it up in that you need to learn sheilding before you do to much. Its the process of creating a sheild around yourself to defend yourself from diferent sorts of attacks/ energy. I myself have at times been attacked a few times... its been awhile since then. but from one attack I still bear some scars on my right arm where the thing dug in its claws and actually caught me for a moment. if it hadent been for my sheilding I would most likely had my arm cut open more then a few scratches.
As for being able to prove it... vixendrop already covered one way. Another way was getting into someone elses thoughts at the moment. Ive instructed people how to "feel" a presence when it gets near them then tested them to see how aware they were. Ive told people what part of the country they were in... but as I said before its been awhile since Ive been out and about and I am out of practice.
if you have anymore questions or want to talk look up my e-mail/ or IM me... :shrugs: kinda fun to have a topic I know at least some about.
ok let me see if I can tackle a few of those questions.
"Why does it happen by accident and how do you will it to happen?" this covers part of your first question too..
It can happen accidentally if your closer to sleep, or drowsy, or are mentally in a lethargic state of mind( bored). I dont know why it happens accidentally only that it happens more often accidentally when you are like that.. ( Ive only been doing this for around 2 years.. so I dont have all the answers.)
How do you will it to happen? well it does take some practice. At first it was meditation to control and manipulate my aura. and I didnt start out with projection. I started out with 'seeing' things from fatr away. I would send only a peice of myself elsewhere to watch something. but I was never leaving my body to do it. Ive found in order to full astral project I have to pulll all the energy/ my aura. out from where it is on my body and once its all been drained from my body ( it feels like your body falls asleep bit by bit. like when your foot falls asleep only alot more numbing)I have more freedom of movement in that plane. I do have to say that something like the matrix does happen. If you are to look at your astral form( though its more of a feel of what you are) it is your residual self image... possably not what you look like in real life but what you wish you looked like. But diferent people do it diferent ways.
"If you're leaving your body, couldn't somebody come by and take your body, leaving you floating in space? You say it's dangerous. What could happen to you? "
Ive never heard of it happening but I suppose its possable if the person was powerful enough.. I always leave alittle peice of myself in my body to keep conciousness ( though limited in my body) on both planes.
As for it being dangerious... once you start exploring the world you make yourself known to things around you. there are other people out there. But there is also life out there. Astral beings are not uncommon and most are harmless little creatures.( alot are pretty cute too) Its another world we are talking about... and there are preditors and prey just like here. And then there are spirits ( I dont know what to really classify them as) same thing goes.. some are malignant, some are neutral, some are friendly.. I can go on and on about the diferent things out there. But I will wrap it up in that you need to learn sheilding before you do to much. Its the process of creating a sheild around yourself to defend yourself from diferent sorts of attacks/ energy. I myself have at times been attacked a few times... its been awhile since then. but from one attack I still bear some scars on my right arm where the thing dug in its claws and actually caught me for a moment. if it hadent been for my sheilding I would most likely had my arm cut open more then a few scratches.
As for being able to prove it... vixendrop already covered one way. Another way was getting into someone elses thoughts at the moment. Ive instructed people how to "feel" a presence when it gets near them then tested them to see how aware they were. Ive told people what part of the country they were in... but as I said before its been awhile since Ive been out and about and I am out of practice.
if you have anymore questions or want to talk look up my e-mail/ or IM me... :shrugs: kinda fun to have a topic I know at least some about.
What he discribed are things I know alot of people to developed. the bond thing people develop without even realizing it at times.. and he did a pretty good job of associating what its like.
If he was sarcastic I didnt catch the hint of it. If he was then
as for your friend. looks like he needs some more practice before realy stepping out eihger..
I suppose you could look online for info Treyvan.. but its generally easier to find people that can do and have been doing it for awhile to 'teach' or to learn things about it from.
If he was sarcastic I didnt catch the hint of it. If he was then
as for your friend. looks like he needs some more practice before realy stepping out eihger..
I suppose you could look online for info Treyvan.. but its generally easier to find people that can do and have been doing it for awhile to 'teach' or to learn things about it from.
You're madly wrong, I was not employing sarcasm.
You don't think I could be as arrogant as I am unless I knew I had something up my sleeve do you?
As for the "astral plane", I would like to think it exists, I would like to think I'm connected to it in some way, or able to communicate across it, however, I would also never tell anyone that. Its a fantasy in my mind so far as I'm concerned right now.
And I never said I work on my aura. I've never seen it, I don't know what it looks like, and thus I'm not certain it exists. I do know I can have an effect on the room, or at least attract attention when in the right mood, or perhaps for some reason change someone's perception of me very quickly... but as said thats a effect, I don't know what causes it, thus I claim not to work on my aura. Nor do I consciously think of it for that matter.
Energy is simple, practically a hard science... almost anyways. Life requirse energy to function, and thus produces energy in return. One day science may be able to create a perfectly functional body, but I would not be surprised if they could not breathe life into it. Life only seems to come from other life. It may break down to cells, but for some reason you seem to need live cells to produce more live cells. Anyrate, back to my point... thus if you follow that line of thought, and come to my conclusion that life produces energy, then thus plants are also alive, and therefor must produce energy. Plants grow in abundance and seem to produce excess energy, thus you must simply open your mind and body to use it as well. I've learned not to do that quite so much... things seem to slow down when I do, and thus it makes me really cocky while driving. And hell, I might be right and able to pull it off due to this "slow down" of reality, but I'm not willing to take the risk of being wrong and killing someone in a car crash because I was able to disillusion myself.
I do have a strong belief though, that is somewhat related to all of this, that when things come down to the wire, I will always pull through, and anyone left in my way will not be standing for long.
Theres a bit more, but I already said I wasn't going to get into this for reasons of going too far, and I've done taht already
You don't think I could be as arrogant as I am unless I knew I had something up my sleeve do you?
As for the "astral plane", I would like to think it exists, I would like to think I'm connected to it in some way, or able to communicate across it, however, I would also never tell anyone that. Its a fantasy in my mind so far as I'm concerned right now.
And I never said I work on my aura. I've never seen it, I don't know what it looks like, and thus I'm not certain it exists. I do know I can have an effect on the room, or at least attract attention when in the right mood, or perhaps for some reason change someone's perception of me very quickly... but as said thats a effect, I don't know what causes it, thus I claim not to work on my aura. Nor do I consciously think of it for that matter.
Energy is simple, practically a hard science... almost anyways. Life requirse energy to function, and thus produces energy in return. One day science may be able to create a perfectly functional body, but I would not be surprised if they could not breathe life into it. Life only seems to come from other life. It may break down to cells, but for some reason you seem to need live cells to produce more live cells. Anyrate, back to my point... thus if you follow that line of thought, and come to my conclusion that life produces energy, then thus plants are also alive, and therefor must produce energy. Plants grow in abundance and seem to produce excess energy, thus you must simply open your mind and body to use it as well. I've learned not to do that quite so much... things seem to slow down when I do, and thus it makes me really cocky while driving. And hell, I might be right and able to pull it off due to this "slow down" of reality, but I'm not willing to take the risk of being wrong and killing someone in a car crash because I was able to disillusion myself.
I do have a strong belief though, that is somewhat related to all of this, that when things come down to the wire, I will always pull through, and anyone left in my way will not be standing for long.
Theres a bit more, but I already said I wasn't going to get into this for reasons of going too far, and I've done taht already
Arc_Orion wrote:<Arc_Orion> Mav is like a very interestingly informed six year old.
And where would over intense dreams fit into all this?
The ones where you wake up, and an hour later, you're barely sure that you're who you think you are, because, while sleeping, the person you were was who you were.
AKA: You in the dream was the real you, and you didn't remember the person you were while not dreaming, because your dream person had a full lifetime. Memories, and everything.
Or am I derailing the topic?
The ones where you wake up, and an hour later, you're barely sure that you're who you think you are, because, while sleeping, the person you were was who you were.
AKA: You in the dream was the real you, and you didn't remember the person you were while not dreaming, because your dream person had a full lifetime. Memories, and everything.
Or am I derailing the topic?
Could just be the mind's illusion.
Then again certain scientists have also come to believe time does not actually exist. It is just our interpretation of the world around us, and that in reality, everything that ever will or has happened, is all happening at the same time.
Then again certain scientists have also come to believe time does not actually exist. It is just our interpretation of the world around us, and that in reality, everything that ever will or has happened, is all happening at the same time.
Arc_Orion wrote:<Arc_Orion> Mav is like a very interestingly informed six year old.
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I don't have a concrete stance on this subject and therefore can swing either way. I'm not sure what to think about this to tell the truth. There are many mysteries in the universe that I would like to think I could find an answer to sometime in my life.
[Edit: One scientist who is well known to battle the existance of 'Time' is Julian Barbour. His theory states that we exist in snapshots in time.. Nows. And that there can be multiple Nows that occur at the same time... for example.. I am here right now typing to you.. but in another Now, I could be outside in a warm climate relaxing.]
[Edit: One scientist who is well known to battle the existance of 'Time' is Julian Barbour. His theory states that we exist in snapshots in time.. Nows. And that there can be multiple Nows that occur at the same time... for example.. I am here right now typing to you.. but in another Now, I could be outside in a warm climate relaxing.]
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So there's some other chick out there that's dreaming me, and I'm dreaming her, and neither of us exist?
Dude, I think we just entered the territory of the Red King. (Alice through the looking glass, for those of us who don't recognize the comment.)
I think Ii need to go make this sleeping dreaming person do my homework now!
Dude, I think we just entered the territory of the Red King. (Alice through the looking glass, for those of us who don't recognize the comment.)
I think Ii need to go make this sleeping dreaming person do my homework now!
And I feel more comftrable proposing this due to the fact that it is not something I believe, but something that I could theorize on:
So if my theory that life is indeed a specific energy, and that life that is created must come from other life is correct, then you could perhaps propose that you are recalling past memories from the life that is now in you.
I say this rather than the more typical "Soul" approach, because there are more people in the world now than there was before, thus it would be hard to explain the growing number of souls. Perhaps stronger life forces are more coherent and conscious of itsself, thus memories that come with it. Or perhaps you're simply living out someone else's current day as they go through it.
And I have trouble explaining how I once knew a conversation's ending before it begun. Generally its reduced to a mere feeling of De Ja Vu, and the thought "Oh, I am supposed to be here then.", without actually knowing any of the further outcome.
So if my theory that life is indeed a specific energy, and that life that is created must come from other life is correct, then you could perhaps propose that you are recalling past memories from the life that is now in you.
I say this rather than the more typical "Soul" approach, because there are more people in the world now than there was before, thus it would be hard to explain the growing number of souls. Perhaps stronger life forces are more coherent and conscious of itsself, thus memories that come with it. Or perhaps you're simply living out someone else's current day as they go through it.
And I have trouble explaining how I once knew a conversation's ending before it begun. Generally its reduced to a mere feeling of De Ja Vu, and the thought "Oh, I am supposed to be here then.", without actually knowing any of the further outcome.
Arc_Orion wrote:<Arc_Orion> Mav is like a very interestingly informed six year old.
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LIES! THOSE DAMN SCIENTISTS! THIS WAS FIRST TIME, WHAT´S NEXT? RABBITS?
/goes mad...no, not really i just went to get some food.,
/goes mad...no, not really i just went to get some food.,
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If I go crazy, will you still call me Superman?
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