Is premaritial sex ok?

furre · Post by **furre** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 7:14 pm

I agree with Cyberliger777, marriage should be forever. To a certain extent. If things go really bad (as in Fixer's case) the divorce is IMHO fully justifiable. But people who get married 5, 6, 7 times just haven't really grasped the concept of marriage. It's standing before God and saying that you want to share your life with this man/woman and you promise to do so (in sickness or in health blablablabla).

[quote="Cyberliger777";p="92277"]But nothing can get better if no one understands what is right and what is wrong.[/quote]
And how exactly would one know what is right and wrong? In some cases it is quite clear but in other cases... you just can't look at the world from a black and white perspective, there are a lot of gray zones. And what makes you so sure that you are right?

Mandor · Post by **Mandor** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 7:29 pm

[quote="furre";p="92289"]But people who get married 5, 6, 7 times just haven't really grasped the concept of marriage. It's standing before God and saying that you want to share your life with this man/woman and you promise to do so (in sickness or in health blablablabla). [/quote]

Only from a religious point of vue. You know that a bunch of unbelievers also actually marry, mostly for the legal advantages of it? And in that case, there is no such thing as standing before god and blah blah blah.

furre · Post by **furre** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 7:35 pm

I meant more in a churchwedding-kind of way...

Mandor · Post by **Mandor** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 8:04 pm

People getting married 6, 7 or 8 times surely does not marry in a "churchwedding-kind of way".

AuroraMystic · Post by **AuroraMystic** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 8:39 pm

I've grown up with a sort of fairy tale outlook on marriage. My parents met in high school and have been together ever since, they're in their late 50s - early 60s now. I was always taught that sex before marriage was bad.

Sex isn't just one set thing though, sex as in just the act itself can either be something wonderful shared between two people or degrading. Casual sex is one thing, having sex with someone you truely love is another. Going to a club or party and "hooking up" has a completely different level of morality than having sex with someone you've been together with for years.

Imperator Severn · Post by **Imperator Severn** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 8:45 pm

On what? What happened? STOP CONFROOZLING ME!

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Oh, don't worry about it. It's not important.

I agree with Aurora Mystic- meaningless sex can be demeaning. But oh, what fun degradationj can be!

furre · Post by **furre** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 11:48 pm

Mandor, not all of them. But some do actually.

Jezebel · Post by **Jezebel** » Sat Jun 07, 2003 2:18 am

I've had premarital sex. More times than I care to admit. I went through a bit of a phase, and we shall leave it at that. But being in an exclusive relationship for over a year and a half kind of weeded that out of me, and I'd like to think I've changed since then. (Well, considering... I *would* say that I've changed since)

Sex is good. I agree. Sex with a person you actually care about is an amazing experience. I also agree that sex just for the sake of having sex can be demeaning. It just... makes you feel so used, you know? I don't know. I'm a very affectionate person, and I like to be able to touch and kiss and hold people, and that extends to in the bedroom. I very much like to cuddle and be close.

Shanira · Post by **Shanira** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 10:08 pm

From a practical point of view, in the whole "marriage should be for life" reasoning, it's good to have premarital sex. It's a nice chance for people to sow their proverbial oats, before comitting to one person for the rest of their life. Don't want people getting edgy and divorcing, because the thought of being with a single person for the rest of their life is too terrifying.

It's also good to find out if you and your partner are sexually compatible. Aside from the fact that being able to enjoy sex with your husband and/or wife ( polygamy, anyone?

) is probably a very good thing to not make a marriage fall apart. If you have certain hangups about sex, and you find out your partner doesn't live up to your expectations, it may very well jeopardize the marriage.

So I wonder why marriages are supposed to be forever and premarital sex is bad, the two contradict eachother.

Oh and for anyone who doesn't get a clue, the above is written with a hint of sarcasm/humor about it.

daemon princess · Post by **daemon princess** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 4:14 am

I've tried and tried, but I really can't understand the reasoning behind these "rights and wrongs." To me, if you say someone did something "wrong," that means they've hurt somebody. If you have a reason why there's something wrong with an exchange of pleasure between two consenting and aware adults, please, please, please explain it to me.

I think people like to feel that love is something noble, but in the end it's just another primal instinct akin to lust. Yes, it's certainly a deeper feeling for you and holds meaning to you, but that doesn't make it morally superior. I also think it's very dangerous to believe there's anything dirty or wrong about sex. It's just another form of pleasure, like eating chocolate or receiving a massage.

I think it's a shame that some will never enjoy the experience of casual sex because they are afraid of it. I believe it's healthy once in a while as long as you are safe and sure that you both have the same thing in mind. If it's not your gig, that's certainly fine, but you shouldn't block it out because you've been told it's wrong.

Granted, if somebody tells me they've had sex with large numbers of people, I am a little wary because I find it hard to believe one could seduce so many without lying to or leading any of them on. Numerable partners, both in sex or marriage may be (though not necessarily) a symptom of an emotional problem but if both parties know what they're getting into, I don't see how it could be labeled as wrong.

Rorschach · Post by **Rorschach** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 6:20 am

[quote="Cyberliger777";p="92231"]When I look at the world today, It makes me sick. The Answer to this question is clear. Of course premarital sex is NOT OKAY. The fact that so may people do not understand that shows how the morals of this world have been taken out back and shot.

The reason that I say this is not just because that I am christian; I say this because I think sex is something that is not simply a pass time event that you do because it feels good. It is something that should only be done in marrige. Aslo marraige should be forever, unless you know that you want to be with the person for the rest of your life you should not get married.[/quote]
Man, sucks to be you.
I think you need to get laid.

Pyctsidust · Post by **Pyctsidust** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 2:38 am

I think safe sex (that doesn't mean not getting caught by your parent/grandparent/teacher/insert any other relevant person here)* is good as long as nobody gets hurt.

A bit of paper stating commitment means less than the commitment and should not be confused with it. If you wanna tie some one down, there are more fun ways of doing it

*delete as appropriate

Mr.Shroom · Post by **Mr.Shroom** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 10:41 pm

[quote="mikehendo";p="88687"]Another simple question[/quote]

Boy, I hope so. And if not, I hope time travel is possible. Like, soon.

Seir · Post by **Seir** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 11:32 pm

Post marital sex exists and unfortunately some kids have found that out the hard way.

gravity · Post by **gravity** » Fri Jun 13, 2003 12:40 am

Kami-chan, Lith is going to admit she has morals now...

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Lith says no, if only because Lith simply believes in not having sex until after she's married.

Odd thing that Lith also doesn't want to get married...

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Oh well, Lith still says NO!!!

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