My computer freezes about 5 mins after windows finishes load

Post by **Martin Blank** » Wed Jul 16, 2003 2:52 am

Athlons do not come overclocked unless the computer manufacturer did this. CPU manufacturers cannot overclock a chip.

The settings can be changed in the BIOS.

BattlePlague · Post by **BattlePlague** » Wed Jul 16, 2003 7:32 am

my bois must be very old since it dosent seem able to be overclocked and doesnt have a temp monitor also since it warranty was till 2001.

Post by **Martin Blank** » Wed Jul 16, 2003 5:19 pm

Check your motherboard, then. There may be pins or dipswitches that you need to set.

TopCat · Post by **TopCat** » Wed Jul 16, 2003 11:09 pm

martin: no. don't help him unoverclock a processor thats fine. If it's not broken, why fix it?

Also, you shouldn't tell him "look around for pins or switches" because there are many many on the motherboard, and its VERY likely he'll get the wrong ones.

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH THE REAL, INSANELY SMART MB?

Serious. Don't tell an idiot something complicated, becuase some people will be told to 'clean off their desktop' so they'll open their computer and scrub it with soap and water.

http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/?t=arc ... 2003-05-30

Post by **Martin Blank** » Thu Jul 17, 2003 1:16 am

Shut up.

If his system is overclocked, and he wants to return it to a normally-clocked status, then he should be able to. YOUR fears over it have nothing to do with reality. Notice that I didn't say "start moving jumpers around" or "randomly set any dipswitches you see".

Why fix it? How about CPU life span? How about possible problems that may still continue as a result of his CPU remaining overclocked and locking up?

BattlePlague: See if you can find out what motherboard you have. This can be done by looking for company and model number silkscreened on the motherboard, or by using Belarc Advisor, which can often find it through a check of the hardware.

Happy, Topcat?

SothThe69th · Post by **SothThe69th** » Thu Jul 17, 2003 1:17 am

/me is again reminded why he joined the Cult of the Blank.

TopCat · Post by **TopCat** » Thu Jul 17, 2003 3:43 am

...

Blank: I didn't mean it like that. You have to say what you mean, because the phrase

"Check your motherboard"

could be the same as "Check the front page of the paper", ie, look at it.

Then there's "There may be pins or dipswitches that you need to set."

It's always possible that that could be taken to the wrong extreme (See person who had the problem because he didn't use Start> Shut Down) by an idiot. You have to be careful about what you say to people.

Yes, i'm happy you clarified before he misread your post and messed with his system.

I'd also like to reccomend that DELL actually lists their motherboards in your cpu information on support.dell.com, but i'd doubt you got a dell, or ANY prebuilt for that matter, for as martain said (then forgot), prebuilts DONT come shipped overclocked.

BattlePlague · Post by **BattlePlague** » Thu Jul 17, 2003 1:52 pm

DJ im not that computer iliterate. also i know not to mess around with anything unless i know exactly what im doing.
A couple moths ago my processor went dead for no reaon after being used for a year i thought it might be slightly overclocked. this is part of my results. whatever WAS messing up my comp is long gone must of been some hidden adware or spyware that adaware did not detect after the restore i went from 20 to 30 procceses with nothing visible running to 13 proccesses with nothing visible running

Operating System
Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 1 (build 2600)

Processor
1400 megahertz AMD Athlon XP
16 kilobyte primary memory cache
256 kilobyte secondary memory cache

Main Circuit Board b
Board: Trigem Computer, Inc. SantaFe
BIOS: Phoenix 1.02P 08/21/2002

Memory Modules c,d
512 Megabytes Installed Memory

Slot 'M1' has 256 MB
Slot 'M2' has 256 MB

Drives
40.98 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
23.59 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

SAMSUNG CD-ROM SC-152L
3.5" format removeable media [Floppy drive]

Maxtor 4D040H2 [Hard drive] (40.98 GB) -- drive 0

Display
NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440 [Display adapter]
Default Monitor

thegrimace · Post by **thegrimace** » Thu Jul 17, 2003 2:30 pm

first things first this kind of error is not caused by overclocked components.
know lets look at the facts on a normal boot it last for 2-3 mins.
on a safe mode boot it runs for 15 mins longer. this means that there is something wrong wit your drivers. the difference between normalandsafe mode is the drivers that get loaded. i'm think your problem lies within a corrupt driver which could very well cause these errors to happen. know seeing as you can get into windows itself it is most likley a minor driver that is loaded after windows startsup. a sound driver mabey, thes econd error would have to be nortan itself, many people have had there systems screwed because of nortan going corrupt, which could start from a file that was overwritted, to a virus itself designed to delete specific nortan files. i would take your HDD to a friends and copy over any music, videos, saved game data, ect that you may need then wipe your system completley i'm talking about fdisk recreate a new partition, then format, and reinstall windows and all of your software. if after you backup your files if this doesn't work then its definatly a hardware issue. If you don't have a cd to reinstall windows with then i'm sure someone here could but the i386 folder on a hosted site so you could download the files to reinstall. i could give you the files but i don't have a place i can upload them too.

if anyone knows of a place i can host files that large for free then i would like to know that. anyways this is my 2 cents so goodluck.

BattlePlague · Post by **BattlePlague** » Thu Jul 17, 2003 2:37 pm

that info would of been usefull a couple days ago but thx anyway

Post by **Martin Blank** » Thu Jul 17, 2003 5:44 pm

[quote="thegrimace";p="116096"]If you don't have a cd to reinstall windows with then i'm sure someone here could but the i386 folder on a hosted site so you could download the files to reinstall. i could give you the files but i don't have a place i can upload them too.[/quote]
This is too close to discussing warez. I advise you not to suggest such courses of action in the future.

No offense, BattlePlague, but we have no way of knowing whether your copy of Windows is legit.

I have seen cases where Safe Mode allows an overclocked CPU to last a bit longer before crashing. Drivers aren't usually like this, as Windows loads core, safe drivers in Safe Mode. Damaging those means circumventing Windows File Protection, which he may have done, but I'm betting not.

thegrimace · Post by **thegrimace** » Thu Jul 17, 2003 6:04 pm

i was makin a comment and i also retract my statement about seding the files to him. next usually when a cpu is overclokced and over heating it doesn't freeze windows usually it crashes it and shuts down that y i said its possible one of his drivers has gone corrupt because this will cause windows to freeze when it tries to load a corrupt driver. but in his case i would try a reinstall b4 playing with jumper and switches on the mother board. but if it comes to it you can find spec for your motherboard online which will show you which jumpers/swichers to change to reset the cpu to normal.

Post by **Martin Blank** » Thu Jul 17, 2003 6:35 pm

His motherboard may not have temperature sensors to use for thermal shutdown purposes, though. The times I've seen this are a couple of years in the past and beyond. He mentioned that his BIOS does not show temps, which doesn't rule out temperature sensors, but does make them much less likely.

BattlePlague · Post by **BattlePlague** » Thu Jul 17, 2003 9:29 pm

in my bois there is speed detector on the fan that shuts down the comp if it slows down to much also reinstalling windows with the restore disk fixed the problem. also when it froze it did not turn off automatically it compkletly stoped everything did even the fans it was like it was off but it said it was on but it wouldnt freeze when doing scandisk im guessing that it was more of a trojan or adaware or spyware that was causing the problems since reinstalling windows all proof got deleted.

TopCat · Post by **TopCat** » Sat Jul 19, 2003 7:19 pm

Martin: Actually, downloading windows is legit, as long as your own your own liscence and stuff. Windows actually sells copys of XP (Sans Liscence) for 17 bucks. Just ask a computer repair shop or software vendor. Its basically a backup in case yours gets broke/scratched. You're "legally" supposed to use the same liscence though. but only for one computer. Yeah.

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