computer from Scratch

Shadow-Sword · Post by **Shadow-Sword** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 11:18 am

I need a new computer do any of you have any good ideas for what i should get in the new computer I've already got the case down I'm getting a vapper chill. i just need a cpu and the rest know.
So what stuff is good these days.

Sipheren · Post by **Sipheren** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 11:45 am

well.....P4 3.0GHz (800 FSB) are good, and the Ati Radeon9800 pro is the best video card these days.....PC3200 DDR memory is good and a M/B from Abit would be good also.....

what sort of price range do you have?

Shadow-Sword · Post by **Shadow-Sword** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 11:53 am

My price range is like $10 000 up to $15 000. So what I've got more money then brains, but the computer will make up for that.

Daemonfly · Post by **Daemonfly** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 12:26 pm

I'd suggest reading reviews & forums (I suggest http://www.overclockers.com & it's forums). Get real-world feedback on different hardware.

My personal suggestions:
AMD/Intel - your prefference
Mobo - Asus, Abit, Epox, MSI are good choices, Epox getting a lot of great reviews lately
Vid card - ATI
RAM - Corsair XMS is great brand
Hard drive - Maxtor or Seagate - WD are popular, but I don't trust 'em
Sound - M-AUDIO"Revolution" RTL (or better model if you want studio quality) or Hercules GameSurround Fortissimo III 7.1

Teranfirbt · Post by **Teranfirbt** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 3:35 pm

AMD/Intel - Either is good, depends on how much you wanna spend. Since you obviously have money you should probably go with Intel (I'm assuming the VapoChill comes with a P4 mounting system?)
Mobo - If you want the best, go Asus.
Video - If you have money, you might wanna think about the Geforce FX 5900. Its just a tiny bit faster than the 9800, but was proven to have better image quality.
Ram - corsair is great memory.
HDD - I'm a big fan of western digital, as I've never had one die on me. I have had a seagate, 2 maxtors, and about 8 samsug drives dead on computers I have worked on.
Sound - Ain't nothin better than the Creative Audigy2 platinum.
CD-RW - I'm going to assume you want DVD-RW or something of the like, but plextor makes the best CD-RW drives. I haven't really kept up on DVD-RW drives, so someone else will have to pick up there.
For NIC go intel or linksys, or the one built into the mobo.

Edit: Please send money to Teranfirbt, 28....

CorruptTiki · Post by **CorruptTiki** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 3:37 pm

I've had a lot of luck with Gigabyte boards lately, they've pretty reliable and they're cool. I picked up one of thier nforce2 boards, dual bios, 8x agp, dual channel ddr, 2 ide ports, 2 raid ports, and two serial ata ports, 6.1 channel stereo sound, firewire, usb, onboard lan, and color coded case hook-ups so you don't have to mess with hooking up your power button wrong.

If you've money to burn you outta get one of those Matrox Parhelia cards. They're not the fastest, but one would let you run three monitors, and spread your game across all three. Quake 3 looks amazing with peripheral vision.

Post by **Martin Blank** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 5:16 pm

[quote="Teranfirbt";p="133216"]Video - If you have money, you might wanna think about the Geforce FX 5900. Its just a tiny bit faster than the 9800, but was proven to have better image quality.[/quote]
And sounds like a 747 taking off when in a game.

CD-RW - I'm going to assume you want DVD-RW or something of the like, but plextor makes the best CD-RW drives. I haven't really kept up on DVD-RW drives, so someone else will have to pick up there.

Both Sony and Panasonic are now making DVD+R/RW/-R/RW drives that will read and write all of the current media formats, and can be had for less than $300. They're both fast, and both reliable. Go with one of those (or two, for your money) and you can stay on top of the optical media curve for a couple of years.

Teranfirbt · Post by **Teranfirbt** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 7:32 pm

[quote="Martin Blank";p="133249"][quote="Teranfirbt";p="133216"]Video - If you have money, you might wanna think about the Geforce FX 5900. Its just a tiny bit faster than the 9800, but was proven to have better image quality.[/quote]
And sounds like a 747 taking off when in a game.
[/quote]
If hes got the money he might as well get a water cooling setup for his video...

CD-RW - I'm going to assume you want DVD-RW or something of the like, but plextor makes the best CD-RW drives. I haven't really kept up on DVD-RW drives, so someone else will have to pick up there.

Both Sony and Panasonic are now making DVD+R/RW/-R/RW drives that will read and write all of the current media formats, and can be had for less than $300. They're both fast, and both reliable. Go with one of those (or two, for your money) and you can stay on top of the optical media curve for a couple of years.

/me bows down to MB

UrzaPlanezwalker · Post by **UrzaPlanezwalker** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 8:54 pm

i have also burnt out several hard drives, and i have yet to burn out a western digital

i say go for the western digital caviar special edition series. they are fast, have 8 meg cache and at 7200 rpm's you cant beat it. they are also willing to put a 3 year warrenty on the thing where most only put a 1 year, so i think they are pretty confident in that product

and yea, if you've got the money, might as well go dual p4 3ghz 800 mb FSB and liquid cool the thing. from the value you posted it seems lika ya want the best

MB wise, i say go ASUS all the way, just a kinda cool function is the talking bios, when you turn it on it says very loudly "Power on check complete"

Kuronekosama · Post by **Kuronekosama** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 10:06 pm

sheesh with 10 thousand to spend screw ide - take half a dozen scsi ultra320 15000rpm drives and toss them in a raid array

UrzaPlanezwalker · Post by **UrzaPlanezwalker** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 11:03 pm

with 10k to spend, he could take a few IDE and put em in a raid array, whats your point :p

7200 rpm is pretty damn good...

Post by **Martin Blank** » Wed Aug 13, 2003 12:05 am

The point is that 15K RPM drives scream. Access times of as low as 3.7ms for read times (deducting rotational latency) make for incredibly fast access.

Sipheren · Post by **Sipheren** » Wed Aug 13, 2003 12:23 am

I wouldnt buy a FX5900, they are slower and dont have very good image quality, the Radeon9800pro is the best you can get.....

Kuronekosama · Post by **Kuronekosama** » Wed Aug 13, 2003 12:33 am

not to mention the ultra320 bandwidth - 320mb/s and I do believe ide is topping out at 150mb/s - Anyhoo, those are server grade drives as well, typically with warranties of 5 years+ Good stuffs to have.

Ciro · Post by **Ciro** » Wed Aug 13, 2003 5:16 am

[quote="Sipheren";p="133147"]well.....P4 3.0GHz (800 FSB) are good, and the Ati Radeon9800 pro is the best video card these days.....PC3200 DDR memory is good and a M/B from Abit would be good also.....

what sort of price range do you have?[/quote]

Intel is definitely the way to go. As for the Radeon 9800, why not give the GeforceFX 5900 Ultra a try. Not as loud as some of the earlier FX series, and there is no real winner yet for top performance between ATI and Nvidia.

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