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RyuuNoSenshi · Post by **RyuuNoSenshi** » Sun Aug 17, 2003 12:55 am

I'd also like to mention that microsoft eats babies! *looks around then does a little caffeine induced jig and runs off* Weeeeeee!

elroy · Post by **elroy** » Sun Aug 17, 2003 1:03 am

I know linux is stable and i know you can customize lots without editing source code. But bagelesque mentioned editing source code in his post, so my reaction was most people don't know shit about that and don't want to do it anyway. And yes i've used linux, for over a year. But the problems i had even experienced users i asked couldn't help me fix. Since i swapped back to windows i haven't had any problems i couldn't fix. (blaster worm..)
All i'm saying is for most people windows really is the easiest to use. And even then it isn't for some, go ask someone who does tech support.. Imagine the trouble those people would have with linux.

Bruce · Post by **Bruce** » Sun Aug 17, 2003 5:54 am

> Tried Debian 3.3 recently. I decided that attempting to run Access 2003 in Wine would be easier and less frustrating than the Debian installer. Then again, I was doing it in VMWare, which I hope will be able to properly support Debian in the near future.

There is no Debian 3.3
3.0 is the current stable.

I find if you understand the questions the Debian installer is very good. It is reliable, functional, and powerful.

> That said, didn't I read something that the Debian team was planning a new installer for the next version?

Yes and 90% of debian users hate it.

Mandor · Post by **Mandor** » Sun Aug 17, 2003 9:55 am

[quote="xxStan";p="135166"]apt-get is good.. so is emerge.. im curious as to how to get apt-get on redhat? or can it not retrieve .rpm's instead of .deb's?[/quote]

The problem is the lack of up to date RPM repositories for apt-get.

Bruce · Post by **Bruce** » Sun Aug 17, 2003 11:25 am

> The problem is the lack of up to date RPM repositories for apt-get.

Its not just that, its the consistancy of RPMs. debs have much stricker rules on how they are put together, so the deb archives play nicely. Still apt-get on redhat does work, and many people are happy with it.

Post by **Martin Blank** » Sun Aug 17, 2003 12:37 pm

[quote="Bruce";p="136417"]There is no Debian 3.3
3.0 is the current stable.[/quote]
Erm... Yeah. Sorry, been working on OpenBSD 3.3 recently, too, and got version numbers crossed.

I find if you understand the questions the Debian installer is very good. It is reliable, functional, and powerful.

I don't doubt it, or else Debian wouldn't be as popular as it is with the advanced Linux users. It is a bit elite, though, enough that when users find it so frustrating to simply install, it doesn't help Linux's image, let alone its own, as a difficult-to-use OS. The installer for Windows has gotten progressively simpler over the years, and while some (like me) would rather have avoided the loss of detail in the initial installation, it's been a godsend for those people who need it to just work.

Just curious... What is it about the new Debian installer that is so disliked?

Bruce · Post by **Bruce** » Sun Aug 17, 2003 12:55 pm

> Just curious... What is it about the new Debian installer that is so disliked?

From what I've seen of it, it still asked the same number of questions, but in doing so removes a lot of options in how you are going to get the data on there. To be honest though I havent seen it or read about it in some time, so a lot could have changed.

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