Are you real?

[Shyknight]

He's really good when you take into account that English is not his first language. Yet he always manages to get his point across.

amsfan: It is true that to learn new things, you must question everything. However, every once in a while there is a question that cannot be answered. In those cases there are three things you can do:

1. make a hypothesis based on evidence and accept it as fact (science/religion)
2. wonder about it forever, which will drive you insane
3. decide not to worry about it, and that you don't need to know the answer

Anyway, thanks FuzzyBunny for believing in me. And I used to think about those same things too. It is something you grow out of, thinking about yourself all the time. Part of being mature is realizing the wants/needs of others and beginning to care about them. I'm not saying I'm very mature or anything... I'm not, really. But it's something I aspire to.

[Dj Nautinto]

I'd just like to point out, that I think you all exist just the same as me. BUT... When discussing an issue like this, where no-one can prove if he is right or wrong, I, for one, like to be the one who doesn't think like everyone else. And now that there are many people pointing out, that everybody exists and nobody exists I'll just point out something totally new. What if everyone is part of the same organism? Just a giants dream?

And Shyknight: My imagination is what I believe it to be. So what if I am decieved to believe, that I am not capable of thinking all the details about you? And how do you explain that authors (Tolkien, for one) can think up entire worlds? Maybe the good people of the Shire are having this same discussion, except it actually is taking place in John Ronald Reuel's head. But would that make it less "real"?

[Shyknight]

"I'd just like to point out, that I think you all exist just the same as me. BUT... When discussing an issue like this, where no-one can prove if he is right or wrong, I, for one, like to be the one who doesn't think like everyone else. And now that there are many people pointing out, that everybody exists and nobody exists I'll just point out something totally new. What if everyone is part of the same organism? Just a giants dream?"

Or a God's dream, perhaps? Maybe we are all God's dream? Nice theory, anyway. I wish I could say it was original, though. I've thought of that one before. I won't deny it as a possibility.

"And Shyknight: My imagination is what I believe it to be. So what if I am decieved to believe, that I am not capable of thinking all the details about you? And how do you explain that authors (Tolkien, for one) can think up entire worlds? Maybe the good people of the Shire are having this same discussion, except it actually is taking place in John Ronald Reuel's head. But would that make it less "real"?"

Although Middle Earth is a world rich in culture, history, races, and magic, it is still very much based off of the real world. Tolkien can only write about what he has actually seen with his senses, and as such 'fictional' worlds are only twisted versions of the real world we live in. However, I also believe that Middle Earth existed, exists, and will exist. But that's another nut to crack... my whole theory on infinite dimensions of time/space. Uber-existence, if you will.

[Piromaniac]

BEING REAL:
I believe I am real so I am real, because I can theorize about not being real I have to be real to theorize.

YOU BEING REAL:
Because I do not know what you are going to say, you are likely real. Since I can argue with you about being real you are real, because you can't argue with yourself. As explained above.... I am one entity, therefore you are not part off me.



The Piro is back!!! w00t!!!!!!!!

[Killer-Rabbit]

First of all, during any in depth discussion, you need to define your terms. The word "real" has many definitions...

One example:
Real: A small Spanish silver coin; also, a denomination of money of account, formerly the unit of the Spanish monetary system.

I know for a fact that you are not a small silver coin. Anyway going by the definition:
Being or occurring in fact or actuality; having verifiable existence.

Now that you know what you consider "real" you have to break that definition down. How can you verify existence? Well now you have to define existance.

Scientifically speaking (since Science is just generalizations about how we precieve existance), then existance is defined by what we sense (see, feal, hear, ect.).

Thus since I can sense you (if we were to meet in real life, not just Real Life), that verifies your existance which means you are real.


If you feel like taking the phylisophical route, feel free to, but with your phylisophical rules and definitions, you have no way to prove or disprove anything at all.