Canadian marijuana...no good?

TheScaryOne · Post by **TheScaryOne** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 12:40 pm

/me helps billf pull Blaze out from under his rock.

I think he's stuck billf. We need to get a crane... Or Lith. One of the two. Either will get him out of there.

Ashen · Post by **Ashen** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 12:46 pm

[quote="Blaze";p="160106"]I didn't say it was necessarily bad or wrong, I just need a moment to modify my perceptions of the world.[/quote]
/me forces herself not to make a lame joke.

So, if the government stuff really is as bad as they say, maybe they need to hire some quality control officers. Any volunteers?

chaos42 · Post by **chaos42** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 4:11 pm

That average price per O still bothers me but even NORML (National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws puts it at $288 for 1997. http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=4444#cropvalue *scratches head* It just seems wrong.

Post by **Blaze** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 4:49 pm

[quote="Ashen";p="160112"]/me forces herself not to make a lame joke.

[/quote]

That's good, because I'd have to stab you if you made that joke.

I'm not under a rock. I know it gets done a lot. I just suppose I didn't want to think how widespread it was. My uncle got $75,000 in debt with his drug habits. I now spend my days hoping that doesn't happen to anybody else.

Post by **Martin Blank** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 5:21 pm

I have a lengthy discussion of how to generate $2.7 billion in taxes, several hundred million in state and federal savings, and take a significant bite out of the illicit marijuana trade here.

Post by **Mae Dean** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 5:36 pm

Dude, seriously. My god. You HAVE to have some sort of informational feed jacked directly into your brain. Damn, Jarrod.

gravity · Post by **gravity** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 5:38 pm

Umm... gravity's old HS had a gardening shed.

Weed was very cheap.

And, for the resourseful ones, you could always just sneak in, pick it, and prepare it yourself for cheaper.

And then there's the gardens of it out in the forest....

Yeah, weed's cheap around where gravity lives.

And a law was just passed to make MJ the lowest priority for police. AKA: While chasing a murder suspect, they don't have to stop for some kid taking a toke.

Which is good because, come on, a toke isn't much.

Might as well leaglize MJ, regulate it through the ATF, and only sell it to people over 21, and basically give it the same laws alchohol has.

No driving while impared, etc.

Heh, of course, in Vancouver that's almost what's happened, so gravity might move there someday.

Post by **Martin Blank** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 5:56 pm

[quote="Greg Dean";p="160225"]Dude, seriously. My god. You HAVE to have some sort of informational feed jacked directly into your brain. Damn, Jarrod.

[/quote]
That's just the tip. One of the things that I would like to do is find information on:

how many people are in various prisons for simple marijuana possession or use, both solely and resulting in extended sentences
their prison terms
how long their court cases took
the time involved for the police bookings
various grades of marijuana on a state-by-state basis
the portion of the DEA's budget that is devoted to marijuana interdiction
the crimes that are related solely or nearly completely due to the illicit marijuana trade

I'd then compile all of that information into a nice report, and see what the effects would be.

Fixer · Post by **Fixer** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 5:59 pm

[quote="Martin Blank";p="160245"]I'd then compile all of that information into a nice report, and see what the effects would be.[/quote]
You would become the new poster child for the "Legalize Marijuana" camp.

chaos42 · Post by **chaos42** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 6:18 pm

An interesting little clock
http://www.drugsense.org/wodclock.htm

Also, Martin, have you poured through http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/ to see if you can find any of the statistics you need? I'm sure norml has a bunch of it burried in its vaults as well...When I get the chance I'll try to dig through and help you compile data...Digging through the vaults of info and seperating legitimate from bogus stuff is just so time consuming....

I strongly feel this, Constitutionaly, should be an issue for states and localities rather than the federal government. If the states had known that the federal government was going to grow this powerful, our constitution never would have been ratified.

Post by **Martin Blank** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 7:40 pm

I plan to get much of it through FOIA requests, actually.

chaos42 · Post by **chaos42** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 7:54 pm

[quote="Martin Blank";p="160328"]I plan to get much of it through FOIA requests, actually.[/quote]

*chuckles* I wonder how much of the DEA budget will be declared off limits to FOIA requests due to the current vogue of linking all drug users to terrorists...I'm sorry, that request is classified due to security risks...

Post by **Martin Blank** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 8:20 pm

Very little in these terms. Most of what I'm looking for doesn't come from the DEA, but from the DoJ Bureau of Prisons, and much of the rest is public information in various reports. I tend to not take information from sides with too much at stake (like NORML), and government reports end up being closer to the middle because they are used as court evidence, and no prosecutor wants their evidence ripped to shreds.

Rembrandt Q. Einstein · Post by **Rembrandt Q. Einstein** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 11:04 pm

sheesh Martin, I think your title should be expanded to:

"Knower of things and Super-Liberal of DOOM!!"

seriouisly though, keep it up!

chaos42 · Post by **chaos42** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 3:50 am

[quote="Martin Blank";p="160363"] I tend to not take information from sides with too much at stake (like NORML),[/quote]

I do take caution in what information I find from where. My experience has been that in general NORML is pretty legit for there info. Most of their info is very well sited. They are, of course, not the only info I look at. I try pretty hard to read all sides of an issue...

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