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Long Quan · Post by **Long Quan** » Tue Sep 30, 2003 4:37 pm

What's the best way for a dirt poor student to go about learning programming online? How about networking? etc...

#include <iostream.h>

int main ()
{
cout << "Hello World! . . . Somehow I don't think I'm getting through to you";
return 0;
}

Post by **Martin Blank** » Tue Sep 30, 2003 5:03 pm

There are a number of books available online. For example, Bruce Eckel makes the texts of some of his programming books available for free online. Networking is a little more vague; what in particular are you looking to learn?

Infin8Cyn · Post by **Infin8Cyn** » Tue Sep 30, 2003 7:32 pm

import java.suckit.*;

class learnProgramming extends Object
{
try
{
if ( Long_Quan.value == "HardCore" )
link:[url=http://www.xs4all.nl/~smit/asm01001.htm]asm_gonow;
else
link:[url=http://www.vbtutor.net/vbtutor.html]vb_4you;
}
catch ( IOProgrammerException e )
{
System.out.println("Oh Crap : " + e);
}
}

desertfox · Post by **desertfox** » Tue Sep 30, 2003 9:38 pm

Yes, Bruce Eckel's C++ books are good, I recommend them. I also recommend learning C++ over Java, it will make you a better programmer in the long run. And, if you learn C++, do take care to learn proper C++ =). The sample code you posted is "incorrect". It will compile fine, but it should be:

#include <iostream> // note the missing .h

int main()
{
std::cout << "Hello world, the right way" << std::endl;
return 0;
}

If you have any questions post and I'm sure someone (myself included) will try to answer them =)

G_Force · Post by **G_Force** » Tue Sep 30, 2003 11:17 pm

Well, I really want to get into programming, and I have tried reading quite a few books. I have had little success with any online/physical resources I have used. I believe that in order to effectively learn to program, you need a teacher. As such I am enrolling at a class at the local technical university (if they offer one on weekends or evenings). But, that's just me. I became so frustrated with the texts that I had to try something else.

-G

Ash · Post by **Ash** » Tue Sep 30, 2003 11:21 pm

I learned networking just by living with a computer that use's a network, and now I know more then most, about Lynksis anyways.

I wouldnt recommend tyring to learn programming online, go to http://www.amazon.com/ and buy a book.

Infin8Cyn · Post by **Infin8Cyn** » Wed Oct 01, 2003 4:29 am

I also recommend learning C++ over Java, it will make you a better programmer in the long run.

Except that most schools are requiring Java now, over C(++). In the multitude of schools I checked out for CS programs, the C(++)s were being dropped to "non-CS major" courses, and the Java ones were bumped up to required for CS majors.

TopCat · Post by **TopCat** » Wed Oct 01, 2003 5:23 am

now that, infin8, is lame.

Java may be all spectacular cuz its "omg multiplatform" but remember, nothing takes up more ram (something they teach you to use LESS OF) than Java. At least when its loaded up in mozilla, that is.

Infin8Cyn · Post by **Infin8Cyn** » Wed Oct 01, 2003 5:37 am

I didn't say I liked it. I hate the fkin' language. I'd have it banned from existance if I could. The fact of the mater is that it's becoming the language of choice requirements for Computer programs at schools around the nation. Don't blame me for it, I'm just stating what I found.

Rembrandt Q. Einstein · Post by **Rembrandt Q. Einstein** » Wed Oct 01, 2003 2:20 pm

I forget exact details, but MIT has made many transcripts, and outlines of it's classes availible online

I am not sure if you need to sign up/be chosen or whatever, but I do remember that is is completely free

***EDIT***

linky: http://ocw.mit.edu/index.html
this resource provides a syllabus, course notes, etc for many MIT classes, mostly introductory ones

Felan · Post by **Felan** » Wed Oct 01, 2003 4:11 pm

Actualy java in itself is designed to be less ram intensive than most programming languages. Mainly due it was originally designed to be used on appliances (my professor claims it was being tested on a toaster, hes probaly joking about that part). Of course, it runs less than stellar on pcs probaly due to the console, and other stuff and graphics that have been added on over time. (strip most of the extra graphics like awt and such it would probaly run a lot better)

But, yeah even many schools here in Georgia are going to the mostly java route, only requiring C++ at the higher levels.

My school decided to stick with its guns and you start out with C++ right off the bat. Java only shows up 2 times, 1 in a intro java class (which is optional) and in the Programming Languages class. Atleast for majors. Most other degrees here now just require a single comp sci class, most of the time its VB (which is really just more fun to do than anything, or so I heard)

Infin8Cyn · Post by **Infin8Cyn** » Wed Oct 01, 2003 4:49 pm

Next semester, all my 300 level courses in CS are Java.
Edit: Yes, because java uses Ram Efficently....

Long Quan · Post by **Long Quan** » Thu Oct 02, 2003 12:19 am

just wondering, but what are those things you have censored in grey? o.O

Infin8Cyn · Post by **Infin8Cyn** » Thu Oct 02, 2003 2:30 am

Software specific to Security Jobs we do where I work.

EvilElf · Post by **EvilElf** » Thu Oct 02, 2003 3:00 am

/me thinks that maybe Infin8Cyn has some "fun" things going on at work. >.>

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