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Post by **Blaze** » Thu Oct 02, 2003 5:12 am

BSing at its prime. This was a paper I just wrote for Religious Philosophy.

3. Why does Nietzsche equate slave morality with a morality derived from religious principals? Discuss whether or not you consider this a legitimate analysis.

Before we can decide whether or not this is legitimate, we truthfully need to answer the question. This is simple however, as the question is straight forward, and the answer quite obvious. Nietzsche equates the two because he feels that if one obeys a certain morality in service to a religion or god, that person is being a slave to that religion or god. Following their directives without question or immediate payback of any sort.

Now that we have answered the question, we can discuss if it is even legitimate. The first thing to look at is Nietzsche’s standpoints on certain issues, to see if he is being biased in this statement. According to the text, Nietzsche believes that “god is dead”, at least in a theological stance, and therefore, we can conclude he feels god’s directives are not prevalent, or no longer have an effect on man. This in and of its self does not make him biased against the idea of serving a religion. As we have seen, religions don’t have to have a god at their centers to be serviced by those who follow them.

So, if he’s not biased against the idea directly, then perhaps he hasn’t fully considered what he is saying. He does indeed say it is man’s destiny to become great. Does this imply that Nietzsche was so full of himself and his greatness that he didn’t want to consider other options, which would diminish his greatness?

Again, an examination of a direct quote from Nietzsche reveals that he feels, “there is nothing more frightful than the infinite”. This does indeed indicate that he has at least felt fear at some point in the past. He does know what it is to not be great. By the same token, however, another section of his work would indicate that he feels the “master-morality” is above normal distinctions of right and wrong provided they are acting towards something lower or foreign. Provided that Nietzsche indeed viewed himself as part of the “master” group, he would want to distance himself and look down on all things he didn’t like or understand, because they were beneath him. One can say that he obviously views himself as part of that group since that is the ideal he spends a great deal of time saying is right, and justifying.

So, we can now establish that Nietzsche did indeed view himself as great, or, at the very least, greater than some others. This serves not to invalidate his argument, but to give us a leaping off point for invalidating it. All we know as of now is that he discredits religious morals as weak, if you will, and views himself as strong. In order to prove that his argument is void, or, at the very least, holed, we have to prove that he actually disliked religion and or religious beliefs, meaning he would have to discredit it no matter what if he wanted to maintain his “great” status in the “master-morality”.

Well, this is easy. In his parable of “the madman”, Nietzsche declares right out, “god is dead”. Obviously, if God were dead, that would make believing in him and obeying him ridiculous and unnecessary. So, it can be assured that Nietzsche did not like the idea of religion. Not simply didn’t believe it, but found it stupid outright.

So, to bring everything together; Nietzsche views himself as great, proven by the fact that he justifies the greater “master morality”, and it would be completely illogical to justify something you didn’t believe. In addition, Nietzsche believed religious following was stupid and unnecessary, as proven by his statement that, “God is dead.” Lastly, we can verify that he must say that religious morality and its ways are of the slave morality, since it is something he dislikes, and therefore he must put below him in order to maintain his greatness.

Seeing as he has to say that religious philosophy is below him, we can say without a doubt that his statement is not based purely within the bounds of philosophy, and is instead influenced by his feelings, making it not really a legitimate statement to be analyzed as to its truth.

Don't you LOVE Bullshit?

Sola · Post by **Sola** » Thu Oct 02, 2003 5:16 am

That was very... frank. XD

sneaky ninja · Post by **sneaky ninja** » Thu Oct 02, 2003 6:09 am

Haha, that was pretty funny. Did your professor actually accept that?

Post by **Blaze** » Thu Oct 02, 2003 6:26 am

You're damn right he will! (gets turned in tommorow)

I've got quotes from the text and everything! He'll accept it, and I'll probobly get a friggin' A!

Blowhards like to hear other people sounding like blowhards themselves.

Accer · Post by **Accer** » Thu Oct 02, 2003 6:28 am

Heh. Hehehe.

But, I would still be surprised if that passed. You'd have to luck out and get a TA who hands back papers that mostly say "A" with no comments made anywhere on anyone's essay.

sneaky ninja · Post by **sneaky ninja** » Thu Oct 02, 2003 6:28 am

Haha.....Blaze, I honestly want to know what you get on that paper. It is a really good response, I hope it works

The Forum Hillbilly · Post by **The Forum Hillbilly** » Thu Oct 02, 2003 3:44 pm

Honestly, I think Nietzsche is full of crap.

Hehe

"God is Dead." - Nietzsche

"Nietzsche is Dead." - God.

Prospero · Post by **Prospero** » Thu Oct 02, 2003 5:08 pm

Nietzsche makes me want to slit my wrists.

Fucking existentialists.

Bjarni Herjolfsson · Post by **Bjarni Herjolfsson** » Thu Oct 02, 2003 8:16 pm

Luckily I was wearing my boots because I'm knee high in crap.

Post by **Blaze** » Thu Oct 02, 2003 8:27 pm

Yeap! But litterary crap!

gravity · Post by **gravity** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 4:58 am

Now THAT is good BS!

CutieCorey · Post by **CutieCorey** » Mon Oct 06, 2003 3:14 am

Great stuff you've got there, Blaze my dear. You are a lot braver than I am, though. I can't wait to hear what grade you got on that paper

Post by **Blaze** » Tue Oct 07, 2003 4:11 pm

Low and behold, I have proven I am the BS GOD!

24/25. Only lost points for a confused word. "Good Discussion" and "Excellent points" were just a couple of marks on the paper.

Blowhards are SOOOOO easy to finagle.

sneaky ninja · Post by **sneaky ninja** » Tue Oct 07, 2003 6:58 pm

Wow.....

You are my hero.

Shyknight · Post by **Shyknight** » Tue Oct 07, 2003 11:22 pm

I'm not trying to outshine Blaze or anything... but today I got my English essay back and I got a perfect 100%! What is so amazing about this is:

1. I only spent a couple hours on the rough draft, and never did get around to editing it into a final draft.

2. I turned in the essay a WEEK late.

According to her written rules, late papers are not accepted. Also according to her rules, if you fail to turn in an assignment, you are dropped from the class. So technically I should've got an automatic F for the entire semester. But I went into the teacher's office and calmly explained the situation to her (read: hung my head and kissed ass). It was quite an excellent performance if I do say so myself. She expressed reluctance at letting me go and commented me on my writing thus far... and said she would look at the essay and if it was good enough, she would let me stay in the class and would only subtract a few points. Well she ended up subtracting NO points, and giving me a perfect 100%. I have a B+ in the class right now and I feel like I'm getting away with murder. I've been happy about it all day.

I don't have the essay with me or else I would post it, but rest assured it is NOT worth a 100% in a college composition class.

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