Galeon1.2
Still waiting for 1.3 to be feature complete.
What browser do you use?
Just in case it gets a little biased in here
Opera supports Tabs (indeed my research suggests that it had it before mozilla)
Opera's mouse gestures rock.. once you start using them you'll be wanting them everywhere (Though mozilla/firebird supports this via plugins)
And as I understand it opera was the first example of mouse gestures anywhere
Plus the opera M2 email client has a database based email system that i believe will one day become the future
So if you wan't an innovative browser... Use opera
(hell, use anything except IE and I won't care less really)
Opera supports Tabs (indeed my research suggests that it had it before mozilla)
Opera's mouse gestures rock.. once you start using them you'll be wanting them everywhere (Though mozilla/firebird supports this via plugins)
And as I understand it opera was the first example of mouse gestures anywhere
Plus the opera M2 email client has a database based email system that i believe will one day become the future
So if you wan't an innovative browser... Use opera
(hell, use anything except IE and I won't care less really)
> Opera supports Tabs (indeed my research suggests that it had it before mozilla)
But not before galeon, mozilla was very late here
> And as I understand it opera was the first example of mouse gestures anywhere
In a browser yes, but not the concept.
> Plus the opera M2 email client has a database based email system that i believe will one day become the future
Err... what emails clients dont use a database? Since... always.
But not before galeon, mozilla was very late here
> And as I understand it opera was the first example of mouse gestures anywhere
In a browser yes, but not the concept.
> Plus the opera M2 email client has a database based email system that i believe will one day become the future
Err... what emails clients dont use a database? Since... always.
Just because life sucks, it doesnt mean you have to care.
no.. most use a structure that emulates most file systems
In M2 they are all held in one big database and then "views" are used to view this database... meaning you can classify an email in more than one place and not have to keep several copies (incidentally I know that NTFS and *nix filesystems can create hard links which work like this.. but thats not the point... mail clients generally don't to my knowledge)
The systems still need perfecting, and people have trouble getting used to the idea... but it is a good one
And thanks for correcting my history
In M2 they are all held in one big database and then "views" are used to view this database... meaning you can classify an email in more than one place and not have to keep several copies (incidentally I know that NTFS and *nix filesystems can create hard links which work like this.. but thats not the point... mail clients generally don't to my knowledge)
The systems still need perfecting, and people have trouble getting used to the idea... but it is a good one
And thanks for correcting my history
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[quote="Buchwald";p="185591"]I'm almost ashamed to say it at this point, but I'm 100% MSIE. I've used Opera, Nutscrape, and Avant... but with each of those, I always found myself saying "Well, I need to do x and I can't," or "Why can't y work with this damn thing?!"
Granted, the CONSTANT crashes get annoying, but you learn to copy and paste URLs quickly.[/quote]
What could you not do with Avant, it is based off of IE, so it should be able to do IE does plus it is better. (If you did not look above it does have tabbed browsing, it can block pics, flash, sound, videos, activex, java applets, scripts, pop-ups. It is in everyway the superior browser. It is also free.
Granted, the CONSTANT crashes get annoying, but you learn to copy and paste URLs quickly.[/quote]
What could you not do with Avant, it is based off of IE, so it should be able to do IE does plus it is better. (If you did not look above it does have tabbed browsing, it can block pics, flash, sound, videos, activex, java applets, scripts, pop-ups. It is in everyway the superior browser. It is also free.
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Some of my personal ramblings:
The reason IEs engine is the most compatible web browsing engine is because more and more web monkeys write web sites that are tailored for IE and sometimes even go so far as to use IE proprietary features. The reason more and more web monkeys write web sites tailored for IE and even use IE proprietary features is because it's what browser they use and what most people use. The reason most people use IE is because it already comes bundled with windows so they don't have to mess with downloading and installing another web browser.
IE is now tightly integrated into windows. Now because of this tight integration into windows, more and more windows programs are popping up that require IE for certain functions even though the program may have nothing to do with web browsing. Microsoft knew this would happen and had planned it since they first started developing Win'98. They wanted their web browser to corner the market so they used their monopoly in the OS market to their advantage. I believe they ended up going to court because of this. Looks like they won.
Now that Microsoft has a strong foothold on web browsing they are obviously using it to their advantage in further monopolizing in on the Internet. Smart business tactics, yes, though I personally do not like it.
I hope more and more web developers will stick with using W3 standards and take at least a little time to make sure their sites are at least compatible with some of the alternative browser engines and platforms.
The reason IEs engine is the most compatible web browsing engine is because more and more web monkeys write web sites that are tailored for IE and sometimes even go so far as to use IE proprietary features. The reason more and more web monkeys write web sites tailored for IE and even use IE proprietary features is because it's what browser they use and what most people use. The reason most people use IE is because it already comes bundled with windows so they don't have to mess with downloading and installing another web browser.
IE is now tightly integrated into windows. Now because of this tight integration into windows, more and more windows programs are popping up that require IE for certain functions even though the program may have nothing to do with web browsing. Microsoft knew this would happen and had planned it since they first started developing Win'98. They wanted their web browser to corner the market so they used their monopoly in the OS market to their advantage. I believe they ended up going to court because of this. Looks like they won.
Now that Microsoft has a strong foothold on web browsing they are obviously using it to their advantage in further monopolizing in on the Internet. Smart business tactics, yes, though I personally do not like it.I hope more and more web developers will stick with using W3 standards and take at least a little time to make sure their sites are at least compatible with some of the alternative browser engines and platforms.
I use Mozilla, because it has a Google search builtin to it, tabbed browsing, and a mail client.
I don't see the point in mouse gestures, but that could be because they may have been designed with right-handed mouse users (the vast majority) in mind, and I use a lefty mouse at home. Some of the gestures are awkward with a lefty mouse.
Also, Mozilla is more compliant than Opera is. I was finding more and more webpages as I went along that didn't work in Opera.
I'd really rather be using a combination of Firebird and Thunderbird, but I fucked over my Firebird installation somehow and haven't figured out how to fix it yet.
I don't see the point in mouse gestures, but that could be because they may have been designed with right-handed mouse users (the vast majority) in mind, and I use a lefty mouse at home. Some of the gestures are awkward with a lefty mouse.
Also, Mozilla is more compliant than Opera is. I was finding more and more webpages as I went along that didn't work in Opera.
I'd really rather be using a combination of Firebird and Thunderbird, but I fucked over my Firebird installation somehow and haven't figured out how to fix it yet.
I've done comparisons between the latest opera/mozilla versions
the borked pages counts are pretty similar.. and at least for the sites i visit.. a very small amount of the overall.
Opera does have a left-handed switch.. not sure when that appeared since i've only used version 7... and all the gestures are configurable
If you've tried a version before version 7 i highly recommend you come back and try again
the borked pages counts are pretty similar.. and at least for the sites i visit.. a very small amount of the overall.
Opera does have a left-handed switch.. not sure when that appeared since i've only used version 7... and all the gestures are configurable
If you've tried a version before version 7 i highly recommend you come back and try again
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